[Menvi-discuss] Screen Readers for "Brf" Music Files

Ella Yu ellaxyu at gmail.com
Tue Apr 25 21:38:52 EDT 2023


Hi everyone, if I can't find an XML of the piece but I'm able to locate a
MIDI, I usually import the MIDI file into MuseScore, extract the relevant
part, and convert it to braille. QWS is also a useful tool. I also used to
use a system where I would have MIDI files loaded into a digital piano and
I could separate the voices out that way, but it's more cumbersome because
of the sighted help involved (it's an older system right now). The
resulting sheet music from MIDI files is not as clean as those from xml
because of the nature of MIDI, but it works.

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 5:56 PM Dewald van Deventer via Menvi-discuss <
menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:

> Hi Jeanie.
>
> I also experimented with midi, and was able to learn to play Liebestraum
> by Liszt on the piano this way using the different parts and playing them
> with QWS on Windows.
>
> Could you send me a message off-list with your s=results about midi.
>
> I also want to create resources for visually impaired musicians that want
> to view a score, with as little as possible, or no cost involved.
>
> Send me an email at:
>
> dewaldvandeventer at gmail.com
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Dewald
>
>
>
> On 2023/04/25 01:14, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
>
>
> Just to be clear though as the question did specify brf files.  Am I
> correct that neither Lime nor GoodFeel can open a brf.  You either have to
> scan the music into sharp Eye, or open an existing midi or xml files, or
> enter the notes yourself into Lime.
>
>
>
> I do think midi files may be an under used resource.  I haven’t done it
> recently.  But back when digital sheet music wasn’t readily available for
> print music I regularly found midi files on the net and extracted the parts
> I wanted.  I had a whole set of instructions on how to do this and tidy it
> into good clean music.  The links would be out of date but the process
> largely unchanged if anyone wants me to dig it out.
>
>
>
> Jeanie
>
>
>
> *From:* Menvi-discuss *On Behalf Of *Bill McCann via Menvi-discuss
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 25, 2023 9:51 AM
> *To:* This is for discussing music and braille literacy
> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
> *Cc:* Bill McCann <info at dancingdots.com> <info at dancingdots.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Menvi-discuss] Screen Readers for "Brf" Music Files
>
>
>
> Dancing Dots’ Lime Aloud scripts do deliver what we call a Talking braille
> score feature to users of the Lime music notation editor who have a license
> for our scripts.  The scripts verbalize descriptions of the current note
> while showing the equivalent braille music on your braille display and the
> print equivalent on the video display.
>
>
>
> Software that would verbally describe braille music characters would need
> to perform some fairly complex analysis of the braille score in order to
> convert it to a meaningful verbal description.  It would need to understand
> the order of signs and the syntax of braille music.  Certainly possible but
> not a trivial task.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill McCann, President, Dancing Dots
>
> Visit our YouTube page:
>
> www.youtube.com/DancingDotsAccess
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org> *On Behalf Of *Karen
> Gearreald via Menvi-discuss
> *Sent:* Monday, April 24, 2023 12:25 AM
> *To:* menvi-discuss at menvi.org
> *Cc:* karen118 at cox.net
> *Subject:* [Menvi-discuss] Screen Readers for "Brf" Music Files
>
>
>
> On behalf of friends who are not MENVI members, I am wondering whether
> anyone uses NVDA or another screen reader to decipher “brf” files of
> braille music scores.  Any information about such experiences would be most
> welcome.  Thank you!
>
>
> Karen Gearreald
>
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