[Menvi-discuss] Creating Sheet Music from Midi Files

Wed Apr 26 20:56:03 EDT 2023

Hi Dewald,

Might take me a bit of time to locate that info if I still have it.

But in essence the main points were all around finding a clean midi that had been created with what often sounds like quite exact timing that can for lack of a better word sound a bit stiff rather than with any speed changes or much expression.

Then sometimes I would do a couple of different imports setting the smallest note value to reflect what I thought the smallest one, or even one bigger in the piece should be so you don’t get hundreds of little semiquaver or demisemiquaver notes tied over to give an exact replica of the midi performance but rather pulls it onto the beats more as the music would be written than how someone would play it.

Finding a midi with a good piano part in the first place and then extracting it was pretty important.

There used to be a bunch of search ENGINES one was I think called midirobot that searched out midi files.

I might be able to find that link fairly easily but no idea if it still works as this was a decade ago.

I did have instructions and links on my website at one point www.jeaniesstudio.com <http://www.jeaniesstudio.com> , but I honestly haven’t looked at it in so long I don’t even know if I took it down or not.  I will check that later.  Bill posted some creating midi instructions also a few days ago, did you see those.  The principle of how you do this will be the same whether you are using Lime, Sibelius, Muse Score, Finale Notepad or other notation software.  I also noticed someone posted links a few weeks back (I think it was here) on how to create good clean xml files for conversion to Braille.  These were created by the Daisy Consortium and are available on their website.

Jeanie

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Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Screen Readers for "Brf" Music Files

Hi Jeanie. 

I also experimented with midi, and was able to learn to play Liebestraum by Liszt on the piano this way using the different parts and playing them with QWS on Windows. 

Could you send me a message off-list with your s=results about midi. 

I also want to create resources for visually impaired musicians that want to view a score, with as little as possible, or no cost involved.

Send me an email at:

dewaldvandeventer at gmail.com <mailto:dewaldvandeventer at gmail.com> 

Thanks

Dewald

On 2023/04/25 01:14, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss wrote:

Hi Bill,

Just to be clear though as the question did specify brf files.  Am I correct that neither Lime nor GoodFeel can open a brf.  You either have to scan the music into sharp Eye, or open an existing midi or xml files, or enter the notes yourself into Lime.

I do think midi files may be an under used resource.  I haven’t done it recently.  But back when digital sheet music wasn’t readily available for print music I regularly found midi files on the net and extracted the parts I wanted.  I had a whole set of instructions on how to do this and tidy it into good clean music.  The links would be out of date but the process largely unchanged if anyone wants me to dig it out.

Jeanie

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Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Screen Readers for "Brf" Music Files

Dancing Dots’ Lime Aloud scripts do deliver what we call a Talking braille score feature to users of the Lime music notation editor who have a license for our scripts.  The scripts verbalize descriptions of the current note while showing the equivalent braille music on your braille display and the print equivalent on the video display.

Software that would verbally describe braille music characters would need to perform some fairly complex analysis of the braille score in order to convert it to a meaningful verbal description.  It would need to understand the order of signs and the syntax of braille music.  Certainly possible but not a trivial task.

Bill McCann, President, Dancing Dots

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Subject: [Menvi-discuss] Screen Readers for "Brf" Music Files

On behalf of friends who are not MENVI members, I am wondering whether anyone uses NVDA or another screen reader to decipher “brf” files of braille music scores.  Any information about such experiences would be most welcome.  Thank you!

                                                                                Karen Gearreald

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