<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone, if I can't find an XML of the piece but I'm able to locate a MIDI, I usually import the MIDI file into MuseScore, extract the relevant part, and convert it to braille. QWS is also a useful tool. I also used to use a system where I would have MIDI files loaded into a digital piano and I could separate the voices out that way, but it's more cumbersome because of the sighted help involved (it's an older system right now). The resulting sheet music from MIDI files is not as clean as those from xml because of the nature of MIDI, but it works.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 5:56 PM Dewald van Deventer via Menvi-discuss <<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi Jeanie. <br>
</p>
<p>I also experimented with midi, and was able to learn to play
Liebestraum by Liszt on the piano this way using the different
parts and playing them with QWS on Windows. <br>
</p>
<p>Could you send me a message off-list with your s=results about
midi. <br>
</p>
<p>I also want to create resources for visually impaired musicians
that want to view a score, with as little as possible, or no cost
involved.</p>
<p>Send me an email at:</p>
<p><a href="mailto:dewaldvandeventer@gmail.com" target="_blank">dewaldvandeventer@gmail.com</a></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Dewald</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
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<div>On 2023/04/25 01:14, Jeanie Willis via
Menvi-discuss wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Hi
Bill,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Just
to be clear though as the question did specify brf files.
Am I correct that neither Lime nor GoodFeel can open a brf.
You either have to scan the music into sharp Eye, or open an
existing midi or xml files, or enter the notes yourself into
Lime.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
do think midi files may be an under used resource. I
haven’t done it recently. But back when digital sheet music
wasn’t readily available for print music I regularly found
midi files on the net and extracted the parts I wanted. I
had a whole set of instructions on how to do this and tidy
it into good clean music. The links would be out of date
but the process largely unchanged if anyone wants me to dig
it out.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Jeanie<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Menvi-discuss <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Bill McCann via Menvi-discuss<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 25, 2023 9:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> This is for discussing music and braille
literacy <a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org" target="_blank"><menvi-discuss@menvi.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Bill McCann <a href="mailto:info@dancingdots.com" target="_blank"><info@dancingdots.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Menvi-discuss] Screen Readers for
"Brf" Music Files<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dancing Dots’ Lime Aloud
scripts do deliver what we call a Talking braille score
feature to users of the Lime music notation editor who have
a license for our scripts. The scripts verbalize
descriptions of the current note while showing the
equivalent braille music on your braille display and the
print equivalent on the video display.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Software that would
verbally describe braille music characters would need to
perform some fairly complex analysis of the braille score in
order to convert it to a meaningful verbal description. It
would need to understand the order of signs and the syntax
of braille music. Certainly possible but not a trivial
task.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Bill
McCann, President, Dancing Dots<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Visit
our YouTube page: <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Consolas" lang="EN-US"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/DancingDotsAccess" target="_blank"><span>www.youtube.com/DancingDotsAccess</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Menvi-discuss
<<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces@menvi.org" target="_blank">menvi-discuss-bounces@menvi.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Karen Gearreald via Menvi-discuss<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 24, 2023 12:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org" target="_blank">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:karen118@cox.net" target="_blank">karen118@cox.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Menvi-discuss] Screen Readers for "Brf"
Music Files<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On behalf of friends who
are not MENVI members, I am wondering whether anyone uses
NVDA or another screen reader to decipher “brf” files of
braille music scores. Any information about such
experiences would be most welcome. Thank you!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">
Karen Gearreald<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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