[Menvi-discuss] [braille-music-chat] Cross posted question about trumpet fingering

Wed Feb 1 11:01:41 EST 2012

Hey now! So once trombone players dropped their mouthpieces, the sax
section squealed the wrong note and well any other thing that a
non-trumpeter wouldn't do, I remember everyone would blame the trumpet
section, usually the shortest person, in my band, guess who that
person was, yep if you guessed it right, it was me, still would be me
too! Always blame the blind trumpeter the short girl eh? Now I gotta
bone to pick with that one!
We are trum butts, trombones are simply bones, baritones are tones
souzaphones are phones, saxophones are sex-a-phones clarinets are
clearly nuts and flutes are fruits they can be spoiled or perfect in
taste! LOL!
Bill I think one of us should make a music jokes group or perhaps just
a general music chat that will be up for anything! Shoot, I could even
start it and invite all of you if you'd like.
Scream those double G's!
Trumpeter Chela Robles

On 2/1/12, Bill <billlist1 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi, Jacqui,
>
>
>
> I would go with dots 1-3 to indicate open for that G.
>
>
>
> Ø  Whatever the answer to above I'm presuming I braille whichever sign we
> decide upon directly after the note as in fingering for piano etc.
>
>
>
> Yes,, that’s right.
>
>
>
> Use dot 1 for first finger, dots 1-2 for second, dots 1-2-3 for third
> finger.  As with so many things with respect to special signs in notation,
> you will almost never see a fingering written into a trumpet part.   I don’t
> think I have ever seen the sign for open(as in no valves pressed)  fingering
> in trumpet music in over 42 years of reading though.  I would include a
> transcriber’s note documenting that dots 1-3 indicates open fingering, that
> Is, no valves are pressed.
>
>
>
> For indicating muted passages, you will just put the word “Mute” or some
> abbreviation like “Str. Mute” for straight mute.  Generally, just follow the
> print score.  When it’s time to remove the mute, the print should say “Open”
> or words to that effect and you will just braille that indication too.
> Notice that the term “open” has two different applications here.  We can say
> something like “play that note open”, meaning with no valves pressed.  Or we
> can say, “Play that section open”, meaning play it with no mute in your
> trumpet.
>
>
>
> BTW, do you know how many trumpet players it takes to change a light bulb?
> Five. One to handle the bulb and four to tell him how much better they
> could've done it.
>
>
>
> OK, I cannot resist one more (remember, I am a trumpet player myself so I
> have a license to tease my fellow trumpeters).  Those listening to a screen
> reader may need to go back and have it spell the key word in the following
> joke for you:
>
>
>
> In an extreme emergency a jazz trumpeter was hired at the last minute to
> come in to substitute in a symphony orchestra concert without ever
> rehearsing with the orchestra.  Everything went fine through the first
> movement, when she had some really hair-raising solos, but in the second
> movement she started improvising wildly when she wasn't supposed to play at
> all.
> After the concert the conductor came round looking for an explanation. She
> said, "I looked in the score and it said 'tacit'-- so I took it!"
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> Bill McCann
> Founder and President of Dancing Dots since 1992
> www.DancingDots.com
> Tel: [001] 610-783-6692
>
>
>
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>
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> [mailto:braille-music-chat at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of CONN, Jacqui
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:34 PM
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> Subject: [braille-music-chat] Cross posted question about trumpet fingering
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> Help please.
>
> I am transcribing for my first trumpet student. I'm on page one of the
> primer and already have three questions - so far. I've looked in Bana 97, De
> Garmo and International Braille Music Manual.
>
> Do I treat the o under the open g as a letter o, as the o for open string
> etc (dots 1,3) or the number zero? As the letter o signifies an open sound
> and often indicates directions for mute do we save the dot 1,3 for later?
>
> Whatever the answer to above I'm presuming I braille whichever sign we
> decide upon directly after the note as in fingering for piano etc.
>
> For the note e which depresses valves one and two do I finger this as I
> would for a piano chord?
>
> Can't wait to get to page 2.
>
> Jacqui
>
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