[Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces

[ruby alphonse]

Hi Genie, Thank you so much, you are so kind and understanding, I am
so touched by your message, I really mean it. I would like to attach
that Grade 8  PDF file to you, if there is option here otherwise, I
have to send it privately to you.let me see.

Thank you really, appreciate it.

Kind Regards, Ruby.

On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
> Hi Ruby,
>
> If you give me an easy to read list of the pieces for both main syllabus and
> alternatives in an e-mail I will have a search and see which of them I can
> find tomorrow.  It is getting late here so I am going to get some dinner and
> go to bed.  Usually the ABRSM Grade 8 always has a prelude and fugue for
> list A and most of those are going to be able to be found.  So if your
> student is willing to do the pieces we can find you music for then I think
> we have a good chance.  So don't stress, just send the list, smile.
>
> Also, you have a much better chance of getting just the three pieces
> transcribed by either ABRSM or other transcribers.  So if we can't find what
> you need then my suggestion would be listen to the pieces and decide which 3
> and just ask for those to be transcribed rather than the whole book.
>
> Jeanie
>
> Jeanie
>
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> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss
> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 8:01 PM
> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
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> Cc: ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>
> Thank you Genie and Ella, yes I agree what genie says that it will be easy
> if I can have BRF or XML music file, but how to get and where to get is my
> anxiety, I have written to Bill Mcann dancingdots whether they can
> transcribe the book of grade 8  ABRSM the latest syllabus
> 2023-2024 for me, bill hasn't responded, perhaps I will write to Albert
> today too if he can help me with the transcription. in the website of ABRSM
> under specific needs and under partially sighted and visually impaired,
> 2023-2024 syllabus isn't available of course, I did not write to them if
> they can get the BRF file for grade 8  of this latest syllabus, I'll try
> that as well today. The student is an adult, a nun from the congrigation
> Daughters Of Charity, Sister Magdelena She doesn't select on Her own
> anything but, leans on me too much. I told Her to go to some other teacher,
> She isn't listening, I tried my best to telling Her lot of obstacles are
> there, unless I have a copy in Braille, I cannot teach, this She doesn't
> understand, has no notion of what braille is, or what a blind person does to
> teach a student, Anyway, I don't know what to do, I am in a bad soop.Besides
> the melody of these pieces in grade Eight are not so much catchy, I like
> some of
> the pieces of the alternative pieces, there is Danny   Boy,that is in
> the list C and there is the second piece in list A   How to make Her
> to buy  the alternative pieces I have to find a way. as Genie says, we love
> to teach music, so, we keep searching for different ways that are accessible
> for us. I'll let you know which pieces Sister and I choose.
>
> Thank you a lot, I truely appreciate you both for your understanding me and
> trying your best to support me.
>
> Thank you again.
>
> Ruby.
>
> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>> Yes I agree, Ruby, let us know what the specific pieces you are
>> looking for are and we can try to find them.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have just been on ABC and downloaded a bunch more repertoire books.
>> My plan over time is to catalogue the individual pieces within all of
>> these so that when someone needs an individual piece we will know if
>> it is tucked away in a book.
>>
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately it doesn’t look like CNIB did a good cataloguing job of
>> the RCM materials.  There are a lot of books just labelled as RCM
>> examination with no idea what grade or whether they are even piano,
>> voice, etc.  I will check our local library here in case they did any
>> better when they received them from ABC.  Otherwise it would be a case
>> of downloading them all and opening and reading.  I’m still a pretty
>> slow Braille reader so not feeling very excited about this, but I
>> might be somewhere quicker with notepad and screen reader, my askii
>> interpretation is improving, lol.
>>
>>
>>
>> But I did notice hundreds of individual pieces of titles I recognised
>> as exam pieces on ABC, so will be happy to do a search once we know
>> those titles.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeanie
>>
>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of Ella Yu via Menvi-discuss
>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 11:04 AM
>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> Cc: Ella Yu <ellaxyu at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all, RCM goes up to level 10 and then there's a grad level, just
>> for reference. Sadly, finding the actual repertoire books in braille
>> is very difficult, and is made worse by the new CNIB library thing
>> which seems to have removed a lot of older braille music titles. I
>> think the best course of action is to figure out which pieces you
>> need, and we can try to help you source them. Finding braille music is
>> very hard a lot of the time, and what is available is very
>> restrictive. Having optical music recognition helps a lot, but you still
>> need sighted assistance to get it to work.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 3:38 PM Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss
>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org <mailto:menvi-discuss at menvi.org> > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ruby,
>>
>> Has your student chosen her pieces yet?  Can you tell us what they are
>> and we can see if we can find a brf or even xml in another exam book
>> or sheet music.
>>
>> Have you contacted ABRSM special needs and asked them for these
>> specific pieces to be urgently transcribed?  Did you get a response?
>> You could also try contacting the publishers as listed in the print
>> book directly and see if there is any way they can release the xml or
>> similar file to you to convert to Braille.  I sometimes find that
>> making an e-mail a CC to several different departments or people
>> within an organisation makes it harder for them to all ignore, so keep
>> trying.
>>
>> I think you should give up trying to find a way to convert the music
>> from pdf or scanned image as this is just not going to be good enough
>> for you as a teacher.  Even if you got all the notes, which is
>> unlikely you will be missing essential articulation, fingering and
>> many other things.  An existing brf or xml will be much closer.
>>
>> If we can help you find a brf or xml do you have a way set up to edit
>> the Braille?  My suggestion is that you could either pay a transcriber
>> to compare the brf that isn't the original ABRSM and edit it to add
>> any small details that are different.  This should be much less
>> expensive than transcribing from scratch.  Or, you could go through
>> with your student either a few bars at a time or through a topic such
>> as all the dynamics in a piece, or the pedal marks, or the
>> articulation and get them to read out what it does so you can check
>> and edit them.  This is a little time consuming, but also might help
>> your student to become much more familiar with the pieces.
>>
>> The only other option is to pay to have them transcribed if you can.
>> I do understand how frustrating this all is.  I have been very
>> frustrated myself this past year with just how little is available and
>> I think over time it is easy to become desensitised to the hugegaping
>> cavern between what is available to a teacher in print and what in
>> Braille which is so crazily restrictive.  It is also impossible to
>> even add up all the extra hours spent to get to the same starting
>> point of having the music ready to begin teaching.  But, I guess we
>> love what we do and so somehow we find a way!
>>
>> If someone can tell me whether the RCM exams are the same Grade level
>> I can download the past ones from ABC and check through those also.
>>
>> Jeanie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss
>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 6:24 AM
>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org <mailto:menvi-discuss at menvi.org> >
>> Cc: ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com
>> <mailto:rubyalphonse at gmail.com> >
>> Subject: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>>
>> Hello list members, please can anyone tell me where to get braille
>> transcribed I need very urgently grade 8  2023-2024 syllabus a braille
>> copy to teach a student, there isn't BRF file available on the website
>> of ABRSM specific needs. This student wants to prepare from now on to
>> do the exams next year, so I cannot use the previous syllabus, so
>> please anyone knows where I can get hard copy of this Grade 8  ABRSM
>> 2023-2024 syllabus. or BRF file, I can get them embossed here. Any
>> help is appreciated deeply.
>>
>> Thank you all in advance,
>>
>> Ruby.
>>
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