[Menvi-discuss] Piano Practicing Issues
Marda
marda-pianist at sbcglobal.net
Tue Jan 1 17:09:27 EST 2013
I used to have the issue with moving my elbow. It was so bad that my
teacher had to hold my elbows still until I got better at that. Now it's
not a problem. Your teacher could also put her hands lightly on your wrists
and move them as you play. It might be an exaggerated movement but the
first movement of the pathetique is a slow one so it might work. I've never
tried that particular thing with a student. I have put my hands lightly on
the hands of students in the beginning to make sure they're curving their
fingers and holding their wrists properly.
Marda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Lieser" <dale.lieser at gmail.com>
To: "'This is for discussing music and braille literacy'"
<menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
Cc: <musicbypatti at charter.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Piano Practicing Issues
> Timothy,
>
> I agree 100% with your teacher about the wrist thing, as my teachers all
> the
> way through graduate school would mention that frequently to me.
>
> Think of your wrist as making small, but free, circular motions--or
> rather,
> a continuous motion to make an unbroken circle. Make sure your elbow is
> not
> moving to produce the motion.
>
> Also, have your teacher demonstrate what she has in mind, but in an
> exaggerated way, and very slowly, so you can more easily comprehend what
> she
> is communicating.
>
> Wrist motion is a huge element, in my opinion, and I never tire of talking
> about it. I welcome an off-list correspondence with you and your teacher.
> My
> email address is:
> Dale.lieser at gmail.com
>
> If all three of us agree, I can provide other contact information off-list
> to help.
>
> Dale
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Menvi-discuss [mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] On Behalf Of
> Timothy Jones
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 1:51 PM
> To: menvi-discuss at menvi.org
> Subject: [Menvi-discuss] Piano Practicing Issues
>
> Dear Menvi:
>
> I'm sure I'm not the first one to ask this question. I'm learning the
> first
> movement of the Pathetique by Beethoven, and was informed by my piano
> teacher that I'm "NOT ROTATING" my wrist when playing the passage where
> the
> left hand is supposed to sound like a rumble.
>
> Of course, due to the fact that I can't see, I'm unable to tell whether
> I'm
> doing it or not. My piano teacher tried to correct this problem by having
> me
> place my hand over hers to see how it's done, but when I tried to do it, I
> had no success at all.
>
> Does anyone have some suggestive cures to fix this problem? She told me if
> I
> don't correct it, I'll "be so tight and tense" that I'll feel like my arm
> is
> going to fall off by the time I finish the piece.
>
> Could I ask you to send your reply to my piano teacher as well? Her name
> is
> Ms. Patti Bennett, you can reach her at the following email address:
> musicbypatti at charter.net.
>
> Thanks for setting up this site. It's very helpful for me to chat with
> other
> blind musicians.
>
> HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Timothy Jones
>
> (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
> 2 CORINTHIANS 5:7
>
> Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one
> mind,
> live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.
> 2 CORINTHIANS 13:11
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:16:29 -0500
> From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com>
> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] print sheet music sites
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> Kelsey,
>
> I don't exactly know what specific type of sheet music you're looking
> for, but as long as it's not pop or something relatively recent you
> could try the international music score library project, (IMSLP).
> They're really good for finding standard repertoire, and I use them
> for just about everything to avoid buying music for private lessons.
> The URL is below. Hope it helps.
>
> http://imslp.org/
>
>
> On 12/30/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I'm able to print to a PDF just as long as the program shows up in my
>> printer list.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Betsy Heiserman
>> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:15 AM
>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] print sheet music sites
>>
>> Kelsey,
>>
>> I seems that musicnotes only lets you print music, not actually download
>> a
>> file. You download their free software that lets you view the sheet music
>> visually, another program that lets you listen to it, and then you can
> print
>>
>> the music from their free software. Their is no file download of the
>> music
>> itself in any form. And, just FYI, I have a Mac that lets me print to a
> PDF,
>>
>> but that doesn't work with musicnotes.
>>
>> I think you will find that most places that have extensive (and newer)
> sheet
>>
>> music available are not making pdfs available because of copyright
>> restrictions.
>>
>> Of course, if you have the capability to scan, you could print the sheet
>> music from musicnotes, and then scan it to a pdf. They have a free sheet
>> music of the month (far right tab on the menu at the top of the page)
>> that
>> you could try this with if you have access to a scanner.
>>
>> Betsy
>>
>> On Dec 30, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Kelsey Nicolay wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I was wondering if I purchased sheet music off a web site like
> musicnotes,
>>>
>>> would I be able to get it in a pdf format? If so, how would I go about
>>> doing this?
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
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> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:18:11 -0500
> From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com>
> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] print sheet music sites
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> Oh sorry, I forgot to mention how it works so here's an adendum to my
> last message.
>
> All music on imslp is in the public domain. Search for what you're
> looking for, and when you find it just click to open it. A PDF will
> show up on your screen and from there in Adobe you can save the file
> or print off coppies.
>
> On 12/30/12, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kelsey,
>>
>> I don't exactly know what specific type of sheet music you're looking
>> for, but as long as it's not pop or something relatively recent you
>> could try the international music score library project, (IMSLP).
>> They're really good for finding standard repertoire, and I use them
>> for just about everything to avoid buying music for private lessons.
>> The URL is below. Hope it helps.
>>
>> http://imslp.org/
>>
>>
>> On 12/30/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I'm able to print to a PDF just as long as the program shows up in my
>>> printer list.
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Betsy Heiserman
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:15 AM
>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] print sheet music sites
>>>
>>> Kelsey,
>>>
>>> I seems that musicnotes only lets you print music, not actually download
>>> a
>>> file. You download their free software that lets you view the sheet
>>> music
>>> visually, another program that lets you listen to it, and then you can
>>> print
>>>
>>> the music from their free software. Their is no file download of the
>>> music
>>> itself in any form. And, just FYI, I have a Mac that lets me print to a
>>> PDF,
>>>
>>> but that doesn't work with musicnotes.
>>>
>>> I think you will find that most places that have extensive (and newer)
>>> sheet
>>>
>>> music available are not making pdfs available because of copyright
>>> restrictions.
>>>
>>> Of course, if you have the capability to scan, you could print the sheet
>>> music from musicnotes, and then scan it to a pdf. They have a free sheet
>>> music of the month (far right tab on the menu at the top of the page)
>>> that
>>> you could try this with if you have access to a scanner.
>>>
>>> Betsy
>>>
>>> On Dec 30, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Kelsey Nicolay wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I was wondering if I purchased sheet music off a web site like
>>>> musicnotes,
>>>>
>>>> would I be able to get it in a pdf format? If so, how would I go about
>>>> doing this?
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Kaiti
>>
>
>
> --
> Kaiti
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:35:43 -0800
> From: Cristina Jones <coloraturajones at gmail.com>
> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
> Cc: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] print sheet music sites
> Message-ID: <BFB16756-E19A-44D4-9AD8-22AAD5EDC53B at gmail.com>
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> Does anybody know if I am SLP can be used with good feel or anything yet?
>
> Sincerely:
> Cristina Jones
> (714) 312-9889
>
> On Dec 30, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Oh sorry, I forgot to mention how it works so here's an adendum to my
>> last message.
>>
>> All music on imslp is in the public domain. Search for what you're
>> looking for, and when you find it just click to open it. A PDF will
>> show up on your screen and from there in Adobe you can save the file
>> or print off coppies.
>>
>> On 12/30/12, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Kelsey,
>>>
>>> I don't exactly know what specific type of sheet music you're looking
>>> for, but as long as it's not pop or something relatively recent you
>>> could try the international music score library project, (IMSLP).
>>> They're really good for finding standard repertoire, and I use them
>>> for just about everything to avoid buying music for private lessons.
>>> The URL is below. Hope it helps.
>>>
>>> http://imslp.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/30/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I'm able to print to a PDF just as long as the program shows up in my
>>>> printer list.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Betsy Heiserman
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:15 AM
>>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>>>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] print sheet music sites
>>>>
>>>> Kelsey,
>>>>
>>>> I seems that musicnotes only lets you print music, not actually
>>>> download
>>>> a
>>>> file. You download their free software that lets you view the sheet
> music
>>>> visually, another program that lets you listen to it, and then you can
>>>> print
>>>>
>>>> the music from their free software. Their is no file download of the
>>>> music
>>>> itself in any form. And, just FYI, I have a Mac that lets me print to a
>>>> PDF,
>>>>
>>>> but that doesn't work with musicnotes.
>>>>
>>>> I think you will find that most places that have extensive (and newer)
>>>> sheet
>>>>
>>>> music available are not making pdfs available because of copyright
>>>> restrictions.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, if you have the capability to scan, you could print the
>>>> sheet
>>>> music from musicnotes, and then scan it to a pdf. They have a free
>>>> sheet
>>>> music of the month (far right tab on the menu at the top of the page)
>>>> that
>>>> you could try this with if you have access to a scanner.
>>>>
>>>> Betsy
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 30, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Kelsey Nicolay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I was wondering if I purchased sheet music off a web site like
>>>>> musicnotes,
>>>>>
>>>>> would I be able to get it in a pdf format? If so, how would I go about
>>>>> doing this?
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>
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>>> Kaiti
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kaiti
>>
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> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:43:24 -0500 (EST)
> From: SClark6144 at aol.com
> To: menvi-discuss at menvi.org
> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] print sheet music sites
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> It is all letters:
> IMSLP
>
> stands for:
> International Music Score Library Project
>
>
> In a message dated 12/30/2012 4:35:56 P.M. US Eastern Standard Time,
> coloraturajones at gmail.com writes:
>
> Does anybody know if I am SLP can be used with good feel or anything
> yet?
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> From: Chela Robles <cdrobles693 at gmail.com>
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> Soul Backs and Jazz Backs will have a basic outline as to how the song
> goes not sure if they have print music in PDF, but they also have a
> guide track as well as an accompaniment track for vocals and all
> instruments http://www.jazzbacks.com and http://www.soulbacks.com and
> you can try sheet music plus at http://www.sheetmusicplus.com
>
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> Skype: jazzytrumpet
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> On 12/30/2012 11:48 AM, Bettie Downing wrote:
>> Here's a site with PDF and they also will give you blank sheet music.
>>
>> http://totalpianist.com/music/
>>
>> On this one you can get free PDF (right side of screen)
>> http://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page
>>
>>
> http://www.virtualsheetmusic.com/cgi-bin/search/search2.php?keyword=sanctuar
> y%20hymn&spchkextra=1
>>
>> This one you have to sign up and put in a password but it's supposedly
> free and does PDF
>> http://www2.free-scores.com/PUBLIC/CPDL/adam-hol.pdf
>>
>>
>> On Dec 30, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Kelsey Nicolay wrote:
>>
>>> Which sites will do this? I'm just curious. I normally use musicnotes
> but if there's one that gives you a pdf, I'll switch to it.
>>>
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