[Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces

Wed Jun 7 05:19:55 EDT 2023

Hi Ruby,

I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.  But I don't think the Victor Reader is a Braille Display and it only plays audio files.  I don't know about brf, but if it can do that then it would be for literature and would be reading it out with words.

There is only two ways a blind person can read a music brf.  Have it embossed to read in hard copy, or read it on a Braille display either on the display itself or connected to the computer using software like Duxbury or Good Feel.  There is no way anything can read out music brf.

I don't think any of us realised you did not have a Braille display when we were suggesting ways of converting and editing the music from xml, etc.  You can learn to use Musescore to have it read out notes and hear the pieces.  That would be really helpful.  But I think you might need to just get the files I have found embossed to read hard copy.  I think I've got about 15 there for you now all up.  They may not be the exact edition, but they should all be accurate for notes and rhythm and all the original composers dynamics, articulation, etc.  They just might differ if some of those were put in by the editor where the composer did not specify them.

Jeanie

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Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces

Hi Ella, Braille display is very very expensive for us in India to buy, we cannot buy under contract like you all who are abroad, there is a big difference between us and you all, in some places the government gives freely for people who are in USA Califonia,UK and so on, I am thinking of buying Victor Reader Stream, that will read BRF files, I will soon have to think of buying.

but really many many thanks to you.

Ruby.

On 6/6/23, Ella Yu via Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
> Hi Ruby, For reading .brf files, you need a braille display, 
> preferably one with a standalone notepad feature that can read/write 
> brf files. If you don't have that, you have to emboss everything, as 
> screen readers can't read brf files properly, and music in particular 
> will look like gibberish to a screen reader.
>
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 8:15 AM ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss < 
> menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Ella, I don't know to use MuseScore that much, I am just 
>> learning, I'll try what you say, and how do I get to read BRF files?
>> any idea/ will duxbury read?
>>
>> Thank you a lot.
>>
>> Ruby.
>>
>> On 6/6/23, Ella Yu via Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>> > Hi Ruby, You will either have to find a different transcription 
>> > that is first movement only, or if that's not available, I would 
>> > just convert the whole thing and delete the remaining two movements 
>> > in the converted BRF file. Alternatively, if you can learn how to 
>> > use MuseScore a bit, you can delete the unwanted movements, save 
>> > the file, and go from there. Many transcriptions of multi-movement 
>> > works on musescore.com contain the entirety of the work in a single 
>> > file.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 12:29 AM ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss < 
>> > menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thank you Ella, Jeanie , Bill and Mark, thank you for the information.
>> >> I found out that in MuseScore, the whole three movements of 
>> >> sonatas are played together, when and if I need only the first 
>> >> movement of Sonata In A major by Mozart how do I download that 
>> >> particular movement of Sonata? is there any solution Please kindly write and tell me.
>> >> Thank you so much.
>> >>
>> >> Ruby.
>> >>
>> >> On 6/6/23, Marc Sabatella via Menvi-discuss 
>> >> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 6:31 PM Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss < 
>> >> > menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Sounds like this is something I need to spend some time playing 
>> >> >> with and hopefully in the future it will be a way I can start 
>> >> >> sharing all my hundreds of arranged junior piano pieces for all 
>> >> >> kinds of movie
>> themes
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> other popular pieces.  I was looking for a way to share them 
>> >> >> that folks could then get my resources in Braille, so this is 
>> >> >> looking like a great option.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes and no.  Yes, it's a great option for sharing music, but as 
>> >> > I
>> noted
>> >> > earlier, if the music is copyrighted by someone else (as movie 
>> >> > themes and pop songs almost always are), then they won't be 
>> >> > downloadable by
>> people
>> >> who
>> >> > don't have paid Pro accounts.  And some music - such as most 
>> >> > Disney
>> >> music -
>> >> > won't be allowed at all, because they don't have a license 
>> >> > agreement with MuseScore.  So it might be limited for legal 
>> >> > reasons.  But it's
>> >> definitely
>> >> > fantastic for sharing original music or public domain music, 
>> >> > like most classical music.
>> >> >
>> >> > Marc
>> >> >
>> >>
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