[Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
ruby alphonse
rubyalphonse at gmail.com
Mon Jun 5 10:17:45 EDT 2023
Yes Thanks Mark I figured it out, now I am really relieved out of my
anxiety of these pieces of grade 8 Piano exam latest syllabus. You,
Ella and Jeanie helped me. I can't express my gratitude to you all,
You don't know! how much I was tenced when RNIB from few years doesn't
supply exams books and the BRF file for this grade 8 latest syllabus
wasn't available on ABRSM website, so I was really anxious. Thank you
all.
Ruby.
On 6/5/23, Marc Sabatella via Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
> Glad you got it working! Note that some scores *do* require a paid (Pro)
> account to download - music copyrighted by someone outside of the
> musescore.com website. If the music is written by someone else but
> uploaded by a MuseScore user, it will require a Pro account so the
> copyright owner can be paid. Also, some scores are set by the person who
> uploaded them to not allow downloads, so if you don't see a download button
> at all on some scores, that is why.
>
> For scores that *are* downloadable, the fastest way to reach the download
> button is probably to use your screen reader shortcut to jump to the level
> one heading, which is the title of the score. Then it is around seven
> presses of Tab to reach the download button from there. This skips you
> past a lof of the other stuff on the page.
>
> Marc
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 10:00 AM ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss <
> menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Mark, it is already loged in, but I did not know, it isn't
>> easy to download though, it is alright, I have to have little more
>> patience to look for the appropriate buttons to download I I
>> downloaded Lost in my thoughts and got the XML file format. Thank you
>> a lot.
>>
>> Ruby.
>>
>> On 6/5/23, Marc Sabatella via Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> wrote:
>> > I do indeed usually use a mouse, but the musescore.com is accessible to
>> > screen readers - it has many blind users. I just test and here is the
>> > exact sequence:
>> >
>> > 1) load the musescore.com website
>> > 2) press Tab to reach the main navigation header
>> > 3) press Tab to reach the search box
>> > 4) press Tab to reach the search button
>> > 5) press Tab to reach the Browse button
>> > 6) press Tab to reach the Learn button
>> > 7) press Tab to reach the Start free trial button (or if you see a
>> > dialog
>> > with more information abut MuseScore Learn, press Space first to close
>> it)
>> > 8) press Tab to reach the upload button
>> > 9) press Tab to reach the log in button
>> >
>> > If you are already logged in, that log in button won't be there of
>> course -
>> > it will be your profile button instead.
>> >
>> > Marc
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 8:20 AM ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss <
>> > menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mark, I think you work with your mouse because you must be a sighted
>> >> person, for me being blind totally, I opperate and handle the keyboard
>> >> commands and the screne reader Jaws or NVDAso with the keyboard
>> >> commands I am not able to find any options either log in or creat new
>> >> account. I tried several times using Insert plus F7 to no all the
>> >> links over there in the links I did not find anything. when I use B
>> >> for buttons, I didn't find user log in or creat a new account. so I
>> >> don't know, I'll try when I get my students home, I'll call one of
>> >> them to come a little early and help me.
>> >>
>> >> But many thanks to you.
>> >>
>> >> Ruby.
>> >>
>> >> On 6/5/23, ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Thank you Mark, I'll Try as what you say.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you again,
>> >> >
>> >> > Ruby.
>> >> >
>> >> > On 6/5/23, Marc Sabatella via Menvi-discuss
>> >> > <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 6:41 AM ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss <
>> >> >> menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Hi Ella and Mark, I am not able to find the option in MuseScore to
>> >> >>> register or to creat new account or to log in.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The option is not within the MuseScore software, it’s on the
>> >> >> score-sharing
>> >> >> website musescore.com. Point your browser at that site and click
>> the
>> >> >> “log
>> >> >> in” button if you are not logged in already. If you can remember
>> your
>> >> >> original username and password, enter it in the dialog that
>> >> >> appears.
>> >> >> If
>> >> >> you cannot remember your password, try the “forgot your password”
>> link
>> >> in
>> >> >> that same dialog. If you that doesn’t work, the click the
>> >> >> “create
>> >> >> an
>> >> >> account” link in that same dialog.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Marc
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Where do I find the
>> >> >>> options? please help, Thank you so much.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Ruby
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 6/5/23, ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> > Thank you Mark Ella and Jeanie, I have registered earlier when I
>> >> >>> > had
>> >> >>> > MuseScore 3, now I have MuseScore 4, I did not log in last night
>> >> >>> > when
>> >> >>> > I was looking at the mail from Ella and was straight going to
>> >> >>> > the
>> >> >>> > links She had sent and was listening, and tried to download,
>> >> >>> > I'll
>> >> >>> > log
>> >> >>> > in and try again.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Thank you all many times, appreciate greatly
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Ruby.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > On 6/5/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss
>> >> >>> > <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> Thanks Ruby, I can see there are a number of these straight
>> >> >>> >> away
>> >> that
>> >> >>> >> I
>> >> >>> >> know
>> >> >>> >> I've seen in Braille. I will do some searching and come back
>> >> >>> >> to
>> >> >>> >> you
>> >> >>> >> off
>> >> >>> >> list with where you can get them. Maybe you could just post a
>> >> >>> >> list
>> >> >>> again
>> >> >>> >> after that of the ones I can't find in case anyone else has any
>> >> >>> >> further
>> >> >>> >> ideas. Looks like Ella has found you an awesome list of xml
>> files
>> >> >>> >> also.
>> >> >>> >> Lol
>> >> >>> >> I don't think she sleeps much, smile, a dedicated researcher.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>> >> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via
>> >> >>> >> Menvi-discuss
>> >> >>> >> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 12:10 AM
>> >> >>> >> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> >> >>> >> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> >> >>> >> Cc: ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com>
>> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Hi Jeanie, I coppied from ABRSM website only the names, so, I
>> will
>> >> >>> >> paste
>> >> >>> >> it
>> >> >>> >> here, 1 J. S. Bach Prelude and Fugue in B-, BWV 866 Piano Exam
>> >> >>> >> Pieces
>> >> >>> >> 2023
>> >> >>> >> & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 2 Mozart Allegro (1st movt from Sonata in F, K. 332) Piano Exam
>> >> >>> >> Pieces
>> >> >>> >> 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 3 Schubert Moment musical in C+ minor (No. 4 from Moments
>> >> >>> >> musicaux,
>> >> >>> >> D.
>> >> >>> >> 780)
>> >> >>> >> Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 4 J. S. Bach Prelude and Fugue in G, BWV 884 J. S. Bach: The
>> >> >>> >> Well-Tempered
>> >> >>> >> Clavier, Part 2 (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 5 Beethoven Allegro (1st movt from Sonata in E, Op. 14 No. 1)
>> >> >>> >> Beethoven: Sonata in E, Op. 14 No. 1 (ABRSM) or
>> >> >>> >> Beethoven: The 35 Piano Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM) or
>> >> >>> >> Beethoven: Complete Pianoforte Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 6 Handel Prelude and Allegro (Fuga) (1st and 2nd movts from
>> >> >>> >> Suite
>> >> No.
>> >> >>> >> 8
>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>> >> F
>> >> >>> >> minor, HWV 433)
>> >> >>> >> Handel: Eight Great Suites, Book 2 (ABRSM) or
>> >> >>> >> Handel: Keyboard Works, Vol. 1 (Bärenreiter)
>> >> >>> >> 7 Martínez Allegro/Moderato (1st movt from Sonata in A) Piano
>> >> >>> >> Music
>> >> >>> >> by
>> >> >>> >> Female Composers (4th revised edition
>> >> >>> >> 2011) (Schott) or
>> >> >>> >> Core Classics, Grades 7–8 (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 8 Mozart Andante grazioso and Vars. 1–6 (1st movt from Sonata
>> >> >>> >> in
>> >> >>> >> A,
>> >> >>> >> K.
>> >> >>> >> 331)
>> >> >>> >> Mozart: Sonata in A, K. 331 (ABRSM) or
>> >> >>> >> Mozart: Sonatas for Pianoforte, Vol. 2 (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 9 Rameau Les cyclopes (from Pièces de clavecin) Rameau: Les
>> >> >>> >> cyclopes
>> >> >>> >> /
>> >> >>> >> Les
>> >> >>> >> sauvages (Bärenreiter) or
>> >> >>> >> Rameau: Pièces de clavecin (Heugel)
>> >> >>> >> 10 D. Scarlatti Sonata in D, Kp. 443, L. 418 Pp. 4–7 from D.
>> >> >>> >> Scarlatti: Selected Keyboard Sonatas,
>> >> >>> >> Book 1 (ABRSM) or
>> >> >>> >> D. Scarlatti: 200 Sonatas, Vol. 4 (EMB Zeneműkiadó)
>> >> >>> >> 11 Haydn Allegro con brio (1st movt from Sonata in D, Hob.
>> XVI:37)
>> >> >>> >> Haydn: Selected Keyboard Sonatas, Book 3 (ABRSM) or
>> >> >>> >> Haydn: Complete Piano Sonatas, Vol. 3 (Wiener Urtext)
>> >> >>> >> 12 Stephen
>> >> >>> >> Hough
>> >> >>> >> Toccatina (5th movt from Suite R-B) Stephen Hough: Suite R-B
>> >> >>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> Other
>> >> >>> >> Enigmas
>> >> >>> >> (Weinberger)
>> >> >>> >> 13 C. Schumann Un poco agitato (No. 2 from Quatre pièces
>> >> >>> >> fugitives,
>> >> >>> >> Op.
>> >> >>> >> 15)
>> >> >>> >> C. Schumann: Romantic Piano Music (Vol. 2)
>> >> >>> >> (Bärenreiter) or
>> >> >>> >> C. Schumann: Quatre pièces fugitives Op. 15 (Breitkopf &
>> >> >>> >> Härtel)
>> >> >>> >> 1 S. ColeridgeTaylor
>> >> >>> >> Impromptu in B minor (No. 2 from
>> >> >>> >> Two Impromptus)
>> >> >>> >> Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 2 Farrenc Étude in D-, Op. 41 No. 5 Piano Exam Pieces 2023 &
>> 2024,
>> >> >>> >> Grade
>> >> >>> >> 8
>> >> >>> >> (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 3 Tchaikovsky Juin: Barcarolle (No. 6 from Les saisons, Op.
>> >> >>> >> 37b)
>> >> >>> >> Piano
>> >> >>> >> Exam
>> >> >>> >> Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 4 Arensky Nocturne in D- (No. 3 from 24 Characteristic Pieces,
>> Op.
>> >> >>> >> 36)
>> >> >>> >> Arensky: 24 Characteristic Pieces, Op. 36 (Prhythm) or
>> >> >>> >> Arensky: 24 Morceau characteristiques, Op. 36 (Alfred)
>> >> >>> >> 5 Chopin Mazurka in A minor, Op. 17 No. 4 Chopin: Mazurkas
>> (Henle)
>> >> >>> >> 6 Ireland Columbine Ireland: The Collected Piano Works, Vol. 4
>> >> >>> >> (Stainer
>> >> >>> &
>> >> >>> >> Bell)
>> >> >>> >> 7 Janáček Andante (No. 1 from In the Mists) Janáček: In the
>> >> >>> >> Mists
>> >> >>> >> (Bärenreiter)
>> >> >>> >> 8 Rachmaninoff Moment musical in D-, Op. 16 No. 5 Rachmaninoff:
>> >> >>> >> Six
>> >> >>> >> moments
>> >> >>> >> musicaux, Op. 16 (Simrock)
>> >> >>> >> 9 Schubert Impromptu in A- (No. 2 from Four Impromptus, Op.
>> >> >>> >> 142,
>> >> >>> >> D.
>> >> >>> >> 935)
>> >> >>> >> Schubert: Impromptus, Op. 142 (ABRSM) or
>> >> >>> >> Schubert: Impromptus and Moments musicaux (Henle) or Core
>> >> >>> >> Classics,
>> >> >>> >> Grades
>> >> >>> >> 7–8 (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 10 Schumann Romanze in F+ (No. 2 from Drei Romanzen, Op. 28)
>> >> >>> >> Schumann: Drei Romanzen, Op. 28 (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 11 A. Beach A Hermit Thrush at Morn, Op. 92 No. 2 Piano Music
>> >> >>> >> of
>> >> >>> >> Amy
>> >> >>> >> Beach
>> >> >>> >> (Hal Leonard) or Amy Beach Piano Music (Dover) A B
>> >> >>> >> 38
>> >> >>> >> Piano 2023 & 2024 Grade 8 Practical Grades COMPOSER PIECE /
>> >> >>> >> WORK
>> /
>> >> >>> >> ARRANGER
>> >> >>> >> PUBLICATION (PUBLISHER)
>> >> >>> >> 12 Beethoven Adagio cantabile (2nd movt from Sonata in C minor
>> >> >>> >> ‘Pathétique’,
>> >> >>> >> Op. 13)
>> >> >>> >> Beethoven: Sonata in C minor, Op. 13 (Pathétique)
>> >> >>> >> (ABRSM) or
>> >> >>> >> Beethoven: The 35 Piano Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM) or
>> >> >>> >> Beethoven: Complete Pianoforte Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 13 Tailleferre Impromptu Tailleferre: Impromptu (Editions
>> >> >>> >> Jobert)
>> >> >>> >> 1 Albéniz Rumores de La Caleta (Malagueña) (No. 6 from
>> >> >>> >> Recuerdos
>> >> >>> >> de
>> >> >>> >> viaje,
>> >> >>> >> Op. 71) Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 2 Debussy Arabesque No. 2 (from Deux arabesques, L. 66) Piano
>> Exam
>> >> >>> Pieces
>> >> >>> >> 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 3 J. P. Johnson Over the Bars Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024,
>> Grade
>> >> >>> >> 8
>> >> >>> >> (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 4 Chaminade Pierrette (Air de Ballet), Op. 41 Piano Music by
>> >> >>> >> Female
>> >> >>> >> Composers (4th revised edition
>> >> >>> >> 2011) (Schott)
>> >> >>> >> 5 Chen Peixun Thunder in Drought Season 100 Years of Chinese
>> Piano
>> >> >>> >> Music: Vol. III Works in
>> >> >>> >> Traditional Style, Book II Instrumental Music (Shanghai
>> >> >>> >> Conservatory
>> >> >>> >> of
>> >> >>> >> Music Press)
>> >> >>> >> 6 Debussy Rêverie Debussy: Rêverie (Editions Jobert) or Night
>> >> >>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> Dreams
>> >> >>> >> (Schott)
>> >> >>> >> 7 Khachaturian Toccata Khachaturian: Toccata (Boosey & Hawkes)
>> >> >>> >> 8 Uwe Korn Caballos Españoles Tango Meets Jazz (Schott)
>> >> >>> >> 9 Cecilia
>> >> >>> >> McDowall
>> >> >>> >> Vespers in Venice (from Four Piano Solos) Cecilia McDowall:
>> >> >>> >> Four
>> >> >>> >> Piano
>> >> >>> >> Solos
>> >> >>> >> (Hunt Edition)
>> >> >>> >> 10 Villa-Lobos O polichinelo (from A prole do bebê no.1)
>> >> Villa-Lobos:
>> >> >>> >> O polichinelo (Eschig) or
>> >> >>> >> Beyond the Romantic Spirit, Book 2 (Alfred)
>> >> >>> >> 11 Bartók Dance in Bulgarian Rhythm No. 6 (No.153 from
>> >> >>> >> Mikrokosmos)
>> >> >>> >> Bartók: Six Dances in Bulgarian Rhythm (Henle) or
>> >> >>> >> Bartók: Mikrokosmos, Vol. 6 (Boosey & Hawkes)
>> >> >>> >> 12 Zoe Rahman Go with the Flow Nikki Iles and Friends, Book 2
>> >> (ABRSM)
>> >> >>> >> 13 Trad. Irish Danny Boy, arr. Iles Jazz in Autumn (OUP)
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Thank you with all my heart.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Ruby.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss
>> >> >>> >> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org
>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >>> Hi Ruby,
>> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >>> Yes please send through the PDF. If you can’t attach it here
>> >> >>> >>> you
>> >> can
>> >> >>> >>> send it to me at jeaniewillis at gmail.com
>> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >>>> On 4/06/2023, at 11:00 PM, ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss
>> >> >>> >>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >>> >>>> Hi Genie, Thank you so much, you are so kind and
>> understanding,
>> >> >>> >>>> I
>> >> >>> >>>> am
>> >> >>> >>>> so touched by your message, I really mean it. I would like to
>> >> >>> >>>> attach
>> >> >>> >>>> that Grade 8 PDF file to you, if there is option here
>> >> >>> >>>> otherwise,
>> >> I
>> >> >>> >>>> have to send it privately to you.let me see.
>> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >>> >>>> Thank you really, appreciate it.
>> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >>> >>>> Kind Regards, Ruby.
>> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss
>> >> >>> >>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> >> >>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >>>>> Hi Ruby,
>> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>> If you give me an easy to read list of the pieces for both
>> main
>> >> >>> >>>>> syllabus and alternatives in an e-mail I will have a search
>> and
>> >> >>> >>>>> see
>> >> >>> >>>>> which of them I can find tomorrow. It is getting late here
>> >> >>> >>>>> so
>> >> >>> >>>>> I
>> >> >>> >>>>> am
>> >> >>> >>>>> going to get some dinner and go to bed. Usually the ABRSM
>> >> >>> >>>>> Grade
>> >> 8
>> >> >>> >>>>> always has a prelude and fugue for list A and most of those
>> are
>> >> >>> >>>>> going to be able to be found. So if your student is willing
>> to
>> >> do
>> >> >>> >>>>> the pieces we can find you music for then I think we have a
>> >> >>> >>>>> good
>> >> >>> >>>>> chance. So don't stress, just send the list, smile.
>> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>> Also, you have a much better chance of getting just the
>> >> >>> >>>>> three
>> >> >>> >>>>> pieces
>> >> >>> >>>>> transcribed by either ABRSM or other transcribers. So if we
>> >> can't
>> >> >>> >>>>> find what you need then my suggestion would be listen to the
>> >> >>> >>>>> pieces
>> >> >>> >>>>> and decide which 3 and just ask for those to be transcribed
>> >> rather
>> >> >>> >>>>> than the whole book.
>> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>> Jeanie
>> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>> Jeanie
>> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>> >>>>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via
>> >> >>> >>>>> Menvi-discuss
>> >> >>> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 8:01 PM
>> >> >>> >>>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> >> >>> >>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> >> >>> >>>>> Cc: ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com>
>> >> >>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>> Thank you Genie and Ella, yes I agree what genie says that
>> >> >>> >>>>> it
>> >> will
>> >> >>> >>>>> be easy if I can have BRF or XML music file, but how to get
>> and
>> >> >>> >>>>> where to get is my anxiety, I have written to Bill Mcann
>> >> >>> >>>>> dancingdots
>> >> >>> >>>>> whether they can transcribe the book of grade 8 ABRSM the
>> >> >>> >>>>> latest
>> >> >>> >>>>> syllabus
>> >> >>> >>>>> 2023-2024 for me, bill hasn't responded, perhaps I will
>> >> >>> >>>>> write
>> >> >>> >>>>> to
>> >> >>> >>>>> Albert today too if he can help me with the transcription.
>> >> >>> >>>>> in
>> >> >>> >>>>> the
>> >> >>> >>>>> website of ABRSM under specific needs and under partially
>> >> >>> >>>>> sighted
>> >> >>> >>>>> and visually impaired,
>> >> >>> >>>>> 2023-2024 syllabus isn't available of course, I did not
>> >> >>> >>>>> write
>> >> >>> >>>>> to
>> >> >>> >>>>> them if they can get the BRF file for grade 8 of this
>> >> >>> >>>>> latest
>> >> >>> >>>>> syllabus, I'll try that as well today. The student is an
>> adult,
>> >> >>> >>>>> a
>> >> >>> >>>>> nun from the congrigation Daughters Of Charity, Sister
>> >> >>> >>>>> Magdelena
>> >> >>> >>>>> She
>> >> >>> >>>>> doesn't select on Her own anything but, leans on me too
>> >> >>> >>>>> much.
>> I
>> >> >>> >>>>> told
>> >> >>> >>>>> Her to go to some other teacher, She isn't listening, I
>> >> >>> >>>>> tried
>> >> >>> >>>>> my
>> >> >>> >>>>> best to telling Her lot of obstacles are there, unless I
>> >> >>> >>>>> have
>> a
>> >> >>> >>>>> copy
>> >> >>> >>>>> in Braille, I cannot teach, this She doesn't understand, has
>> no
>> >> >>> >>>>> notion of what braille is, or what a blind person does to
>> teach
>> >> >>> >>>>> a
>> >> >>> >>>>> student, Anyway, I don't know what to do, I am in a bad
>> >> >>> >>>>> soop.Besides
>> >> >>> >>>>> the melody of these pieces in grade Eight are not so much
>> >> >>> >>>>> catchy,
>> >> >>> >>>>> I
>> >> >>> >>>>> like some of
>> >> >>> >>>>> the pieces of the alternative pieces, there is Danny
>> Boy,that
>> >> is
>> >> >>> >>>>> in
>> >> >>> >>>>> the list C and there is the second piece in list A How to
>> >> >>> >>>>> make
>> >> >>> >>>>> Her
>> >> >>> >>>>> to buy the alternative pieces I have to find a way. as
>> >> >>> >>>>> Genie
>> >> >>> >>>>> says,
>> >> >>> >>>>> we love to teach music, so, we keep searching for different
>> >> >>> >>>>> ways
>> >> >>> >>>>> that are accessible for us. I'll let you know which pieces
>> >> >>> >>>>> Sister
>> >> >>> >>>>> and I choose.
>> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>> Thank you a lot, I truely appreciate you both for your
>> >> >>> >>>>> understanding
>> >> >>> >>>>> me and trying your best to support me.
>> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>> Thank you again.
>> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>> Ruby.
>> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss
>> >> >>> >>>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Yes I agree, Ruby, let us know what the specific pieces you
>> >> >>> >>>>>> are
>> >> >>> >>>>>> looking for are and we can try to find them.
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> I have just been on ABC and downloaded a bunch more
>> repertoire
>> >> >>> books.
>> >> >>> >>>>>> My plan over time is to catalogue the individual pieces
>> within
>> >> >>> >>>>>> all
>> >> >>> >>>>>> of these so that when someone needs an individual piece we
>> >> >>> >>>>>> will
>> >> >>> >>>>>> know if it is tucked away in a book.
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Unfortunately it doesn’t look like CNIB did a good
>> cataloguing
>> >> >>> >>>>>> job
>> >> >>> >>>>>> of the RCM materials. There are a lot of books just
>> >> >>> >>>>>> labelled
>> >> >>> >>>>>> as
>> >> >>> >>>>>> RCM examination with no idea what grade or whether they are
>> >> >>> >>>>>> even
>> >> >>> >>>>>> piano, voice, etc. I will check our local library here in
>> >> >>> >>>>>> case
>> >> >>> >>>>>> they did any better when they received them from ABC.
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Otherwise
>> >> >>> >>>>>> it
>> >> >>> >>>>>> would be a case of downloading them all and opening and
>> >> >>> >>>>>> reading.
>> >> >>> >>>>>> I’m still a pretty slow Braille reader so not feeling very
>> >> >>> >>>>>> excited
>> >> >>> >>>>>> about this, but I might be somewhere quicker with notepad
>> >> >>> >>>>>> and
>> >> >>> >>>>>> screen reader, my askii interpretation is improving, lol.
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> But I did notice hundreds of individual pieces of titles I
>> >> >>> >>>>>> recognised as exam pieces on ABC, so will be happy to do a
>> >> search
>> >> >>> >>>>>> once we know those titles.
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Jeanie
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of Ella Yu via Menvi-discuss
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 11:04 AM
>> >> >>> >>>>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> >> >>> >>>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Cc: Ella Yu <ellaxyu at gmail.com>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Hi all, RCM goes up to level 10 and then there's a grad
>> level,
>> >> >>> >>>>>> just
>> >> >>> >>>>>> for reference. Sadly, finding the actual repertoire books
>> >> >>> >>>>>> in
>> >> >>> >>>>>> braille is very difficult, and is made worse by the new
>> >> >>> >>>>>> CNIB
>> >> >>> >>>>>> library thing which seems to have removed a lot of older
>> >> >>> >>>>>> braille
>> >> >>> >>>>>> music titles. I think the best course of action is to
>> >> >>> >>>>>> figure
>> >> >>> >>>>>> out
>> >> >>> >>>>>> which pieces you need, and we can try to help you source
>> them.
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Finding braille music is very hard a lot of the time, and
>> what
>> >> is
>> >> >>> >>>>>> available is very restrictive. Having optical music
>> >> >>> >>>>>> recognition
>> >> >>> >>>>>> helps a lot, but you still need sighted assistance to get
>> >> >>> >>>>>> it
>> >> >>> >>>>>> to
>> >> >>> work.
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 3:38 PM Jeanie Willis via
>> Menvi-discuss
>> >> >>> >>>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org <mailto:menvi-discuss at menvi.org> >
>> >> >>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Hi Ruby,
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Has your student chosen her pieces yet? Can you tell us
>> >> >>> >>>>>> what
>> >> >>> >>>>>> they
>> >> >>> >>>>>> are and we can see if we can find a brf or even xml in
>> another
>> >> >>> >>>>>> exam
>> >> >>> >>>>>> book or sheet music.
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Have you contacted ABRSM special needs and asked them for
>> >> >>> >>>>>> these
>> >> >>> >>>>>> specific pieces to be urgently transcribed? Did you get a
>> >> >>> >>>>>> response?
>> >> >>> >>>>>> You could also try contacting the publishers as listed in
>> >> >>> >>>>>> the
>> >> >>> >>>>>> print
>> >> >>> >>>>>> book directly and see if there is any way they can release
>> the
>> >> >>> >>>>>> xml
>> >> >>> >>>>>> or similar file to you to convert to Braille. I sometimes
>> >> >>> >>>>>> find
>> >> >>> >>>>>> that making an e-mail a CC to several different departments
>> or
>> >> >>> >>>>>> people within an organisation makes it harder for them to
>> >> >>> >>>>>> all
>> >> >>> >>>>>> ignore, so keep trying.
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> I think you should give up trying to find a way to convert
>> the
>> >> >>> >>>>>> music from pdf or scanned image as this is just not going
>> >> >>> >>>>>> to
>> >> >>> >>>>>> be
>> >> >>> >>>>>> good enough for you as a teacher. Even if you got all the
>> >> notes,
>> >> >>> >>>>>> which is unlikely you will be missing essential
>> >> >>> >>>>>> articulation,
>> >> >>> >>>>>> fingering and many other things. An existing brf or xml
>> >> >>> >>>>>> will
>> >> >>> >>>>>> be
>> >> >>> much
>> >> >>> >>>>>> closer.
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> If we can help you find a brf or xml do you have a way set
>> >> >>> >>>>>> up
>> >> >>> >>>>>> to
>> >> >>> >>>>>> edit the Braille? My suggestion is that you could either
>> >> >>> >>>>>> pay
>> >> >>> >>>>>> a
>> >> >>> >>>>>> transcriber to compare the brf that isn't the original
>> >> >>> >>>>>> ABRSM
>> >> >>> >>>>>> and
>> >> >>> >>>>>> edit it to add any small details that are different. This
>> >> should
>> >> >>> >>>>>> be much less expensive than transcribing from scratch. Or,
>> >> >>> >>>>>> you
>> >> >>> >>>>>> could go through with your student either a few bars at a
>> time
>> >> or
>> >> >>> >>>>>> through a topic such as all the dynamics in a piece, or the
>> >> pedal
>> >> >>> >>>>>> marks, or the articulation and get them to read out what it
>> >> >>> >>>>>> does
>> >> >>> >>>>>> so
>> >> >>> >>>>>> you can check and edit them. This is a little time
>> consuming,
>> >> >>> >>>>>> but
>> >> >>> >>>>>> also might help your student to become much more familiar
>> with
>> >> >>> >>>>>> the
>> >> >>> >>>>>> pieces.
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> The only other option is to pay to have them transcribed if
>> >> >>> >>>>>> you
>> >> >>> >>>>>> can.
>> >> >>> >>>>>> I do understand how frustrating this all is. I have been
>> very
>> >> >>> >>>>>> frustrated myself this past year with just how little is
>> >> >>> >>>>>> available
>> >> >>> >>>>>> and I think over time it is easy to become desensitised to
>> the
>> >> >>> >>>>>> hugegaping cavern between what is available to a teacher in
>> >> print
>> >> >>> >>>>>> and what in Braille which is so crazily restrictive. It is
>> >> >>> >>>>>> also
>> >> >>> >>>>>> impossible to even add up all the extra hours spent to get
>> >> >>> >>>>>> to
>> >> the
>> >> >>> >>>>>> same starting point of having the music ready to begin
>> >> >>> >>>>>> teaching.
>> >> >>> >>>>>> But, I guess we love what we do and so somehow we find a
>> >> >>> >>>>>> way!
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> If someone can tell me whether the RCM exams are the same
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Grade
>> >> >>> >>>>>> level I can download the past ones from ABC and check
>> >> >>> >>>>>> through
>> >> >>> >>>>>> those
>> >> >>> >>>>>> also.
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Jeanie
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>> >>>>>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Menvi-discuss
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 6:24 AM
>> >> >>> >>>>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> >> >>> >>>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org <mailto:menvi-discuss at menvi.org> >
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Cc: ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com
>> >> >>> >>>>>> <mailto:rubyalphonse at gmail.com> >
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Subject: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Hello list members, please can anyone tell me where to get
>> >> >>> >>>>>> braille
>> >> >>> >>>>>> transcribed I need very urgently grade 8 2023-2024
>> >> >>> >>>>>> syllabus
>> a
>> >> >>> >>>>>> braille copy to teach a student, there isn't BRF file
>> >> >>> >>>>>> available
>> >> >>> >>>>>> on
>> >> >>> >>>>>> the website of ABRSM specific needs. This student wants to
>> >> >>> >>>>>> prepare
>> >> >>> >>>>>> from now on to do the exams next year, so I cannot use the
>> >> >>> >>>>>> previous
>> >> >>> >>>>>> syllabus, so please anyone knows where I can get hard copy
>> >> >>> >>>>>> of
>> >> >>> >>>>>> this
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Grade 8 ABRSM
>> >> >>> >>>>>> 2023-2024 syllabus. or BRF file, I can get them embossed
>> here.
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Any
>> >> >>> >>>>>> help is appreciated deeply.
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Thank you all in advance,
>> >> >>> >>>>>>
>> >> >>> >>>>>> Ruby.
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