[Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
ruby alphonse
rubyalphonse at gmail.com
Mon Jun 5 09:59:21 EDT 2023
Thank you Mark, it is already loged in, but I did not know, it isn't
easy to download though, it is alright, I have to have little more
patience to look for the appropriate buttons to download I I
downloaded Lost in my thoughts and got the XML file format. Thank you
a lot.
Ruby.
On 6/5/23, Marc Sabatella via Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
> I do indeed usually use a mouse, but the musescore.com is accessible to
> screen readers - it has many blind users. I just test and here is the
> exact sequence:
>
> 1) load the musescore.com website
> 2) press Tab to reach the main navigation header
> 3) press Tab to reach the search box
> 4) press Tab to reach the search button
> 5) press Tab to reach the Browse button
> 6) press Tab to reach the Learn button
> 7) press Tab to reach the Start free trial button (or if you see a dialog
> with more information abut MuseScore Learn, press Space first to close it)
> 8) press Tab to reach the upload button
> 9) press Tab to reach the log in button
>
> If you are already logged in, that log in button won't be there of course -
> it will be your profile button instead.
>
> Marc
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 8:20 AM ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss <
> menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>
>> Mark, I think you work with your mouse because you must be a sighted
>> person, for me being blind totally, I opperate and handle the keyboard
>> commands and the screne reader Jaws or NVDAso with the keyboard
>> commands I am not able to find any options either log in or creat new
>> account. I tried several times using Insert plus F7 to no all the
>> links over there in the links I did not find anything. when I use B
>> for buttons, I didn't find user log in or creat a new account. so I
>> don't know, I'll try when I get my students home, I'll call one of
>> them to come a little early and help me.
>>
>> But many thanks to you.
>>
>> Ruby.
>>
>> On 6/5/23, ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Thank you Mark, I'll Try as what you say.
>> >
>> > Thank you again,
>> >
>> > Ruby.
>> >
>> > On 6/5/23, Marc Sabatella via Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 6:41 AM ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss <
>> >> menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Ella and Mark, I am not able to find the option in MuseScore to
>> >>> register or to creat new account or to log in.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The option is not within the MuseScore software, it’s on the
>> >> score-sharing
>> >> website musescore.com. Point your browser at that site and click the
>> >> “log
>> >> in” button if you are not logged in already. If you can remember your
>> >> original username and password, enter it in the dialog that appears.
>> >> If
>> >> you cannot remember your password, try the “forgot your password” link
>> in
>> >> that same dialog. If you that doesn’t work, the click the “create
>> >> an
>> >> account” link in that same dialog.
>> >>
>> >> Marc
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Where do I find the
>> >>> options? please help, Thank you so much.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ruby
>> >>>
>> >>> On 6/5/23, ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > Thank you Mark Ella and Jeanie, I have registered earlier when I
>> >>> > had
>> >>> > MuseScore 3, now I have MuseScore 4, I did not log in last night
>> >>> > when
>> >>> > I was looking at the mail from Ella and was straight going to the
>> >>> > links She had sent and was listening, and tried to download, I'll
>> >>> > log
>> >>> > in and try again.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thank you all many times, appreciate greatly
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Ruby.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 6/5/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss
>> >>> > <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >> Thanks Ruby, I can see there are a number of these straight away
>> that
>> >>> >> I
>> >>> >> know
>> >>> >> I've seen in Braille. I will do some searching and come back to
>> >>> >> you
>> >>> >> off
>> >>> >> list with where you can get them. Maybe you could just post a
>> >>> >> list
>> >>> again
>> >>> >> after that of the ones I can't find in case anyone else has any
>> >>> >> further
>> >>> >> ideas. Looks like Ella has found you an awesome list of xml files
>> >>> >> also.
>> >>> >> Lol
>> >>> >> I don't think she sleeps much, smile, a dedicated researcher.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> >> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss
>> >>> >> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 12:10 AM
>> >>> >> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> >>> >> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> >>> >> Cc: ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com>
>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Hi Jeanie, I coppied from ABRSM website only the names, so, I will
>> >>> >> paste
>> >>> >> it
>> >>> >> here, 1 J. S. Bach Prelude and Fugue in B-, BWV 866 Piano Exam
>> >>> >> Pieces
>> >>> >> 2023
>> >>> >> & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 2 Mozart Allegro (1st movt from Sonata in F, K. 332) Piano Exam
>> >>> >> Pieces
>> >>> >> 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 3 Schubert Moment musical in C+ minor (No. 4 from Moments
>> >>> >> musicaux,
>> >>> >> D.
>> >>> >> 780)
>> >>> >> Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 4 J. S. Bach Prelude and Fugue in G, BWV 884 J. S. Bach: The
>> >>> >> Well-Tempered
>> >>> >> Clavier, Part 2 (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 5 Beethoven Allegro (1st movt from Sonata in E, Op. 14 No. 1)
>> >>> >> Beethoven: Sonata in E, Op. 14 No. 1 (ABRSM) or
>> >>> >> Beethoven: The 35 Piano Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM) or
>> >>> >> Beethoven: Complete Pianoforte Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 6 Handel Prelude and Allegro (Fuga) (1st and 2nd movts from Suite
>> No.
>> >>> >> 8
>> >>> in
>> >>> >> F
>> >>> >> minor, HWV 433)
>> >>> >> Handel: Eight Great Suites, Book 2 (ABRSM) or
>> >>> >> Handel: Keyboard Works, Vol. 1 (Bärenreiter)
>> >>> >> 7 Martínez Allegro/Moderato (1st movt from Sonata in A) Piano
>> >>> >> Music
>> >>> >> by
>> >>> >> Female Composers (4th revised edition
>> >>> >> 2011) (Schott) or
>> >>> >> Core Classics, Grades 7–8 (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 8 Mozart Andante grazioso and Vars. 1–6 (1st movt from Sonata in
>> >>> >> A,
>> >>> >> K.
>> >>> >> 331)
>> >>> >> Mozart: Sonata in A, K. 331 (ABRSM) or
>> >>> >> Mozart: Sonatas for Pianoforte, Vol. 2 (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 9 Rameau Les cyclopes (from Pièces de clavecin) Rameau: Les
>> >>> >> cyclopes
>> >>> >> /
>> >>> >> Les
>> >>> >> sauvages (Bärenreiter) or
>> >>> >> Rameau: Pièces de clavecin (Heugel)
>> >>> >> 10 D. Scarlatti Sonata in D, Kp. 443, L. 418 Pp. 4–7 from D.
>> >>> >> Scarlatti: Selected Keyboard Sonatas,
>> >>> >> Book 1 (ABRSM) or
>> >>> >> D. Scarlatti: 200 Sonatas, Vol. 4 (EMB Zeneműkiadó)
>> >>> >> 11 Haydn Allegro con brio (1st movt from Sonata in D, Hob. XVI:37)
>> >>> >> Haydn: Selected Keyboard Sonatas, Book 3 (ABRSM) or
>> >>> >> Haydn: Complete Piano Sonatas, Vol. 3 (Wiener Urtext)
>> >>> >> 12 Stephen
>> >>> >> Hough
>> >>> >> Toccatina (5th movt from Suite R-B) Stephen Hough: Suite R-B and
>> >>> >> Other
>> >>> >> Enigmas
>> >>> >> (Weinberger)
>> >>> >> 13 C. Schumann Un poco agitato (No. 2 from Quatre pièces
>> >>> >> fugitives,
>> >>> >> Op.
>> >>> >> 15)
>> >>> >> C. Schumann: Romantic Piano Music (Vol. 2)
>> >>> >> (Bärenreiter) or
>> >>> >> C. Schumann: Quatre pièces fugitives Op. 15 (Breitkopf & Härtel)
>> >>> >> 1 S. ColeridgeTaylor
>> >>> >> Impromptu in B minor (No. 2 from
>> >>> >> Two Impromptus)
>> >>> >> Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 2 Farrenc Étude in D-, Op. 41 No. 5 Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024,
>> >>> >> Grade
>> >>> >> 8
>> >>> >> (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 3 Tchaikovsky Juin: Barcarolle (No. 6 from Les saisons, Op. 37b)
>> >>> >> Piano
>> >>> >> Exam
>> >>> >> Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 4 Arensky Nocturne in D- (No. 3 from 24 Characteristic Pieces, Op.
>> >>> >> 36)
>> >>> >> Arensky: 24 Characteristic Pieces, Op. 36 (Prhythm) or
>> >>> >> Arensky: 24 Morceau characteristiques, Op. 36 (Alfred)
>> >>> >> 5 Chopin Mazurka in A minor, Op. 17 No. 4 Chopin: Mazurkas (Henle)
>> >>> >> 6 Ireland Columbine Ireland: The Collected Piano Works, Vol. 4
>> >>> >> (Stainer
>> >>> &
>> >>> >> Bell)
>> >>> >> 7 Janáček Andante (No. 1 from In the Mists) Janáček: In the Mists
>> >>> >> (Bärenreiter)
>> >>> >> 8 Rachmaninoff Moment musical in D-, Op. 16 No. 5 Rachmaninoff:
>> >>> >> Six
>> >>> >> moments
>> >>> >> musicaux, Op. 16 (Simrock)
>> >>> >> 9 Schubert Impromptu in A- (No. 2 from Four Impromptus, Op. 142,
>> >>> >> D.
>> >>> >> 935)
>> >>> >> Schubert: Impromptus, Op. 142 (ABRSM) or
>> >>> >> Schubert: Impromptus and Moments musicaux (Henle) or Core
>> >>> >> Classics,
>> >>> >> Grades
>> >>> >> 7–8 (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 10 Schumann Romanze in F+ (No. 2 from Drei Romanzen, Op. 28)
>> >>> >> Schumann: Drei Romanzen, Op. 28 (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 11 A. Beach A Hermit Thrush at Morn, Op. 92 No. 2 Piano Music of
>> >>> >> Amy
>> >>> >> Beach
>> >>> >> (Hal Leonard) or Amy Beach Piano Music (Dover) A B
>> >>> >> 38
>> >>> >> Piano 2023 & 2024 Grade 8 Practical Grades COMPOSER PIECE / WORK /
>> >>> >> ARRANGER
>> >>> >> PUBLICATION (PUBLISHER)
>> >>> >> 12 Beethoven Adagio cantabile (2nd movt from Sonata in C minor
>> >>> >> ‘Pathétique’,
>> >>> >> Op. 13)
>> >>> >> Beethoven: Sonata in C minor, Op. 13 (Pathétique)
>> >>> >> (ABRSM) or
>> >>> >> Beethoven: The 35 Piano Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM) or
>> >>> >> Beethoven: Complete Pianoforte Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 13 Tailleferre Impromptu Tailleferre: Impromptu (Editions Jobert)
>> >>> >> 1 Albéniz Rumores de La Caleta (Malagueña) (No. 6 from Recuerdos
>> >>> >> de
>> >>> >> viaje,
>> >>> >> Op. 71) Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 2 Debussy Arabesque No. 2 (from Deux arabesques, L. 66) Piano Exam
>> >>> Pieces
>> >>> >> 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 3 J. P. Johnson Over the Bars Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade
>> >>> >> 8
>> >>> >> (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 4 Chaminade Pierrette (Air de Ballet), Op. 41 Piano Music by
>> >>> >> Female
>> >>> >> Composers (4th revised edition
>> >>> >> 2011) (Schott)
>> >>> >> 5 Chen Peixun Thunder in Drought Season 100 Years of Chinese Piano
>> >>> >> Music: Vol. III Works in
>> >>> >> Traditional Style, Book II Instrumental Music (Shanghai
>> >>> >> Conservatory
>> >>> >> of
>> >>> >> Music Press)
>> >>> >> 6 Debussy Rêverie Debussy: Rêverie (Editions Jobert) or Night and
>> >>> >> Dreams
>> >>> >> (Schott)
>> >>> >> 7 Khachaturian Toccata Khachaturian: Toccata (Boosey & Hawkes)
>> >>> >> 8 Uwe Korn Caballos Españoles Tango Meets Jazz (Schott)
>> >>> >> 9 Cecilia
>> >>> >> McDowall
>> >>> >> Vespers in Venice (from Four Piano Solos) Cecilia McDowall: Four
>> >>> >> Piano
>> >>> >> Solos
>> >>> >> (Hunt Edition)
>> >>> >> 10 Villa-Lobos O polichinelo (from A prole do bebê no.1)
>> Villa-Lobos:
>> >>> >> O polichinelo (Eschig) or
>> >>> >> Beyond the Romantic Spirit, Book 2 (Alfred)
>> >>> >> 11 Bartók Dance in Bulgarian Rhythm No. 6 (No.153 from
>> >>> >> Mikrokosmos)
>> >>> >> Bartók: Six Dances in Bulgarian Rhythm (Henle) or
>> >>> >> Bartók: Mikrokosmos, Vol. 6 (Boosey & Hawkes)
>> >>> >> 12 Zoe Rahman Go with the Flow Nikki Iles and Friends, Book 2
>> (ABRSM)
>> >>> >> 13 Trad. Irish Danny Boy, arr. Iles Jazz in Autumn (OUP)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Thank you with all my heart.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Ruby.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss
>> >>> >> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org
>> >
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>> Hi Ruby,
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Yes please send through the PDF. If you can’t attach it here you
>> can
>> >>> >>> send it to me at jeaniewillis at gmail.com
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>> On 4/06/2023, at 11:00 PM, ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss
>> >>> >>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> Hi Genie, Thank you so much, you are so kind and understanding,
>> >>> >>>> I
>> >>> >>>> am
>> >>> >>>> so touched by your message, I really mean it. I would like to
>> >>> >>>> attach
>> >>> >>>> that Grade 8 PDF file to you, if there is option here
>> >>> >>>> otherwise,
>> I
>> >>> >>>> have to send it privately to you.let me see.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> Thank you really, appreciate it.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> Kind Regards, Ruby.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss
>> >>> >>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> >>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> Hi Ruby,
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> If you give me an easy to read list of the pieces for both main
>> >>> >>>>> syllabus and alternatives in an e-mail I will have a search and
>> >>> >>>>> see
>> >>> >>>>> which of them I can find tomorrow. It is getting late here so
>> >>> >>>>> I
>> >>> >>>>> am
>> >>> >>>>> going to get some dinner and go to bed. Usually the ABRSM
>> >>> >>>>> Grade
>> 8
>> >>> >>>>> always has a prelude and fugue for list A and most of those are
>> >>> >>>>> going to be able to be found. So if your student is willing to
>> do
>> >>> >>>>> the pieces we can find you music for then I think we have a
>> >>> >>>>> good
>> >>> >>>>> chance. So don't stress, just send the list, smile.
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Also, you have a much better chance of getting just the three
>> >>> >>>>> pieces
>> >>> >>>>> transcribed by either ABRSM or other transcribers. So if we
>> can't
>> >>> >>>>> find what you need then my suggestion would be listen to the
>> >>> >>>>> pieces
>> >>> >>>>> and decide which 3 and just ask for those to be transcribed
>> rather
>> >>> >>>>> than the whole book.
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Jeanie
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Jeanie
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> >>>>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via
>> >>> >>>>> Menvi-discuss
>> >>> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 8:01 PM
>> >>> >>>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> >>> >>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> >>> >>>>> Cc: ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com>
>> >>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Thank you Genie and Ella, yes I agree what genie says that it
>> will
>> >>> >>>>> be easy if I can have BRF or XML music file, but how to get and
>> >>> >>>>> where to get is my anxiety, I have written to Bill Mcann
>> >>> >>>>> dancingdots
>> >>> >>>>> whether they can transcribe the book of grade 8 ABRSM the
>> >>> >>>>> latest
>> >>> >>>>> syllabus
>> >>> >>>>> 2023-2024 for me, bill hasn't responded, perhaps I will write
>> >>> >>>>> to
>> >>> >>>>> Albert today too if he can help me with the transcription. in
>> >>> >>>>> the
>> >>> >>>>> website of ABRSM under specific needs and under partially
>> >>> >>>>> sighted
>> >>> >>>>> and visually impaired,
>> >>> >>>>> 2023-2024 syllabus isn't available of course, I did not write
>> >>> >>>>> to
>> >>> >>>>> them if they can get the BRF file for grade 8 of this latest
>> >>> >>>>> syllabus, I'll try that as well today. The student is an adult,
>> >>> >>>>> a
>> >>> >>>>> nun from the congrigation Daughters Of Charity, Sister
>> >>> >>>>> Magdelena
>> >>> >>>>> She
>> >>> >>>>> doesn't select on Her own anything but, leans on me too much. I
>> >>> >>>>> told
>> >>> >>>>> Her to go to some other teacher, She isn't listening, I tried
>> >>> >>>>> my
>> >>> >>>>> best to telling Her lot of obstacles are there, unless I have a
>> >>> >>>>> copy
>> >>> >>>>> in Braille, I cannot teach, this She doesn't understand, has no
>> >>> >>>>> notion of what braille is, or what a blind person does to teach
>> >>> >>>>> a
>> >>> >>>>> student, Anyway, I don't know what to do, I am in a bad
>> >>> >>>>> soop.Besides
>> >>> >>>>> the melody of these pieces in grade Eight are not so much
>> >>> >>>>> catchy,
>> >>> >>>>> I
>> >>> >>>>> like some of
>> >>> >>>>> the pieces of the alternative pieces, there is Danny Boy,that
>> is
>> >>> >>>>> in
>> >>> >>>>> the list C and there is the second piece in list A How to
>> >>> >>>>> make
>> >>> >>>>> Her
>> >>> >>>>> to buy the alternative pieces I have to find a way. as Genie
>> >>> >>>>> says,
>> >>> >>>>> we love to teach music, so, we keep searching for different
>> >>> >>>>> ways
>> >>> >>>>> that are accessible for us. I'll let you know which pieces
>> >>> >>>>> Sister
>> >>> >>>>> and I choose.
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Thank you a lot, I truely appreciate you both for your
>> >>> >>>>> understanding
>> >>> >>>>> me and trying your best to support me.
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Thank you again.
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Ruby.
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss
>> >>> >>>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> >>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>>> Yes I agree, Ruby, let us know what the specific pieces you
>> >>> >>>>>> are
>> >>> >>>>>> looking for are and we can try to find them.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> I have just been on ABC and downloaded a bunch more repertoire
>> >>> books.
>> >>> >>>>>> My plan over time is to catalogue the individual pieces within
>> >>> >>>>>> all
>> >>> >>>>>> of these so that when someone needs an individual piece we
>> >>> >>>>>> will
>> >>> >>>>>> know if it is tucked away in a book.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> Unfortunately it doesn’t look like CNIB did a good cataloguing
>> >>> >>>>>> job
>> >>> >>>>>> of the RCM materials. There are a lot of books just labelled
>> >>> >>>>>> as
>> >>> >>>>>> RCM examination with no idea what grade or whether they are
>> >>> >>>>>> even
>> >>> >>>>>> piano, voice, etc. I will check our local library here in
>> >>> >>>>>> case
>> >>> >>>>>> they did any better when they received them from ABC.
>> >>> >>>>>> Otherwise
>> >>> >>>>>> it
>> >>> >>>>>> would be a case of downloading them all and opening and
>> >>> >>>>>> reading.
>> >>> >>>>>> I’m still a pretty slow Braille reader so not feeling very
>> >>> >>>>>> excited
>> >>> >>>>>> about this, but I might be somewhere quicker with notepad and
>> >>> >>>>>> screen reader, my askii interpretation is improving, lol.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> But I did notice hundreds of individual pieces of titles I
>> >>> >>>>>> recognised as exam pieces on ABC, so will be happy to do a
>> search
>> >>> >>>>>> once we know those titles.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> Jeanie
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of Ella Yu via Menvi-discuss
>> >>> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 11:04 AM
>> >>> >>>>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> >>> >>>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> >>> >>>>>> Cc: Ella Yu <ellaxyu at gmail.com>
>> >>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> Hi all, RCM goes up to level 10 and then there's a grad level,
>> >>> >>>>>> just
>> >>> >>>>>> for reference. Sadly, finding the actual repertoire books in
>> >>> >>>>>> braille is very difficult, and is made worse by the new CNIB
>> >>> >>>>>> library thing which seems to have removed a lot of older
>> >>> >>>>>> braille
>> >>> >>>>>> music titles. I think the best course of action is to figure
>> >>> >>>>>> out
>> >>> >>>>>> which pieces you need, and we can try to help you source them.
>> >>> >>>>>> Finding braille music is very hard a lot of the time, and what
>> is
>> >>> >>>>>> available is very restrictive. Having optical music
>> >>> >>>>>> recognition
>> >>> >>>>>> helps a lot, but you still need sighted assistance to get it
>> >>> >>>>>> to
>> >>> work.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 3:38 PM Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss
>> >>> >>>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org <mailto:menvi-discuss at menvi.org> >
>> >>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> Hi Ruby,
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> Has your student chosen her pieces yet? Can you tell us what
>> >>> >>>>>> they
>> >>> >>>>>> are and we can see if we can find a brf or even xml in another
>> >>> >>>>>> exam
>> >>> >>>>>> book or sheet music.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> Have you contacted ABRSM special needs and asked them for
>> >>> >>>>>> these
>> >>> >>>>>> specific pieces to be urgently transcribed? Did you get a
>> >>> >>>>>> response?
>> >>> >>>>>> You could also try contacting the publishers as listed in the
>> >>> >>>>>> print
>> >>> >>>>>> book directly and see if there is any way they can release the
>> >>> >>>>>> xml
>> >>> >>>>>> or similar file to you to convert to Braille. I sometimes
>> >>> >>>>>> find
>> >>> >>>>>> that making an e-mail a CC to several different departments or
>> >>> >>>>>> people within an organisation makes it harder for them to all
>> >>> >>>>>> ignore, so keep trying.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> I think you should give up trying to find a way to convert the
>> >>> >>>>>> music from pdf or scanned image as this is just not going to
>> >>> >>>>>> be
>> >>> >>>>>> good enough for you as a teacher. Even if you got all the
>> notes,
>> >>> >>>>>> which is unlikely you will be missing essential articulation,
>> >>> >>>>>> fingering and many other things. An existing brf or xml will
>> >>> >>>>>> be
>> >>> much
>> >>> >>>>>> closer.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> If we can help you find a brf or xml do you have a way set up
>> >>> >>>>>> to
>> >>> >>>>>> edit the Braille? My suggestion is that you could either pay
>> >>> >>>>>> a
>> >>> >>>>>> transcriber to compare the brf that isn't the original ABRSM
>> >>> >>>>>> and
>> >>> >>>>>> edit it to add any small details that are different. This
>> should
>> >>> >>>>>> be much less expensive than transcribing from scratch. Or,
>> >>> >>>>>> you
>> >>> >>>>>> could go through with your student either a few bars at a time
>> or
>> >>> >>>>>> through a topic such as all the dynamics in a piece, or the
>> pedal
>> >>> >>>>>> marks, or the articulation and get them to read out what it
>> >>> >>>>>> does
>> >>> >>>>>> so
>> >>> >>>>>> you can check and edit them. This is a little time consuming,
>> >>> >>>>>> but
>> >>> >>>>>> also might help your student to become much more familiar with
>> >>> >>>>>> the
>> >>> >>>>>> pieces.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> The only other option is to pay to have them transcribed if
>> >>> >>>>>> you
>> >>> >>>>>> can.
>> >>> >>>>>> I do understand how frustrating this all is. I have been very
>> >>> >>>>>> frustrated myself this past year with just how little is
>> >>> >>>>>> available
>> >>> >>>>>> and I think over time it is easy to become desensitised to the
>> >>> >>>>>> hugegaping cavern between what is available to a teacher in
>> print
>> >>> >>>>>> and what in Braille which is so crazily restrictive. It is
>> >>> >>>>>> also
>> >>> >>>>>> impossible to even add up all the extra hours spent to get to
>> the
>> >>> >>>>>> same starting point of having the music ready to begin
>> >>> >>>>>> teaching.
>> >>> >>>>>> But, I guess we love what we do and so somehow we find a way!
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> If someone can tell me whether the RCM exams are the same
>> >>> >>>>>> Grade
>> >>> >>>>>> level I can download the past ones from ABC and check through
>> >>> >>>>>> those
>> >>> >>>>>> also.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> Jeanie
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> >>>>>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via
>> >>> >>>>>> Menvi-discuss
>> >>> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 6:24 AM
>> >>> >>>>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> >>> >>>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org <mailto:menvi-discuss at menvi.org> >
>> >>> >>>>>> Cc: ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com
>> >>> >>>>>> <mailto:rubyalphonse at gmail.com> >
>> >>> >>>>>> Subject: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> Hello list members, please can anyone tell me where to get
>> >>> >>>>>> braille
>> >>> >>>>>> transcribed I need very urgently grade 8 2023-2024 syllabus a
>> >>> >>>>>> braille copy to teach a student, there isn't BRF file
>> >>> >>>>>> available
>> >>> >>>>>> on
>> >>> >>>>>> the website of ABRSM specific needs. This student wants to
>> >>> >>>>>> prepare
>> >>> >>>>>> from now on to do the exams next year, so I cannot use the
>> >>> >>>>>> previous
>> >>> >>>>>> syllabus, so please anyone knows where I can get hard copy of
>> >>> >>>>>> this
>> >>> >>>>>> Grade 8 ABRSM
>> >>> >>>>>> 2023-2024 syllabus. or BRF file, I can get them embossed here.
>> >>> >>>>>> Any
>> >>> >>>>>> help is appreciated deeply.
>> >>> >>>>>>
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>> >>> >>>>>>
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