[Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces

Mon Jun 5 06:40:44 EDT 2023

Hi Ella and Mark, I am not able to find the option in MuseScore to
register or to creat new account or to log in. Where do I find the
options? please help,  Thank you so much.

Ruby

On 6/5/23, ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Mark Ella and Jeanie, I have registered earlier when I had
> MuseScore 3, now I have MuseScore 4, I did not log in last night when
> I was looking at the mail from Ella and was straight going to the
> links She had sent and was listening, and tried to download, I'll log
> in and try again.
>
> Thank you all many times, appreciate greatly
>
> Ruby.
>
> On 6/5/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>> Thanks Ruby, I can see there are a number of these straight away that I
>> know
>> I've seen in Braille.  I will do some searching and come back to you off
>> list with where you can get them.  Maybe you could just post a list again
>> after that of the ones I can't find in case anyone else has any further
>> ideas.  Looks like Ella has found you an awesome list of xml files also.
>> Lol
>> I don't think she sleeps much, smile, a dedicated researcher.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss
>> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 12:10 AM
>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> Cc: ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>>
>> Hi Jeanie, I coppied from ABRSM website only the names, so, I will paste
>> it
>> here,  1 J. S. Bach Prelude and Fugue in B-, BWV 866 Piano Exam Pieces
>> 2023
>> & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> 2 Mozart Allegro (1st movt from Sonata in F, K. 332) Piano Exam Pieces
>> 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> 3 Schubert Moment musical in C+ minor (No. 4 from Moments musicaux, D.
>> 780)
>> Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> 4 J. S. Bach Prelude and Fugue in G, BWV 884 J. S. Bach: The
>> Well-Tempered
>> Clavier, Part 2 (ABRSM)
>> 5 Beethoven Allegro (1st movt from Sonata in E, Op. 14 No. 1)
>> Beethoven: Sonata in E, Op. 14 No. 1 (ABRSM) or
>> Beethoven: The 35 Piano Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM) or
>> Beethoven: Complete Pianoforte Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM)
>> 6 Handel Prelude and Allegro (Fuga) (1st and 2nd movts from Suite No. 8 in
>> F
>> minor, HWV 433)
>> Handel: Eight Great Suites, Book 2 (ABRSM) or
>> Handel: Keyboard Works, Vol. 1 (Bärenreiter)
>> 7 Martínez Allegro/Moderato (1st movt from Sonata in A) Piano Music by
>> Female Composers (4th revised edition
>> 2011) (Schott) or
>> Core Classics, Grades 7–8 (ABRSM)
>> 8 Mozart Andante grazioso and Vars. 1–6 (1st movt from Sonata in A, K.
>> 331)
>> Mozart: Sonata in A, K. 331 (ABRSM) or
>> Mozart: Sonatas for Pianoforte, Vol. 2 (ABRSM)
>> 9 Rameau Les cyclopes (from Pièces de clavecin) Rameau: Les cyclopes /
>> Les
>> sauvages (Bärenreiter) or
>> Rameau: Pièces de clavecin (Heugel)
>> 10 D. Scarlatti Sonata in D, Kp. 443, L. 418 Pp. 4–7 from D.
>> Scarlatti: Selected Keyboard Sonatas,
>> Book 1 (ABRSM) or
>> D. Scarlatti: 200 Sonatas, Vol. 4 (EMB Zeneműkiadó)
>> 11 Haydn Allegro con brio (1st movt from Sonata in D, Hob. XVI:37)
>> Haydn: Selected Keyboard Sonatas, Book 3 (ABRSM) or
>> Haydn: Complete Piano Sonatas, Vol. 3 (Wiener Urtext)
>> 12 Stephen
>> Hough
>> Toccatina (5th movt from Suite R-B) Stephen Hough: Suite R-B and Other
>> Enigmas
>> (Weinberger)
>> 13 C. Schumann Un poco agitato (No. 2 from Quatre pièces fugitives, Op.
>> 15)
>> C. Schumann: Romantic Piano Music (Vol. 2)
>> (Bärenreiter) or
>> C. Schumann: Quatre pièces fugitives Op. 15 (Breitkopf & Härtel)
>> 1 S. ColeridgeTaylor
>> Impromptu in B minor (No. 2 from
>> Two Impromptus)
>> Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> 2 Farrenc Étude in D-, Op. 41 No. 5 Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade
>> 8
>> (ABRSM)
>> 3 Tchaikovsky Juin: Barcarolle (No. 6 from Les saisons, Op. 37b) Piano
>> Exam
>> Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> 4 Arensky Nocturne in D- (No. 3 from 24 Characteristic Pieces, Op. 36)
>> Arensky: 24 Characteristic Pieces, Op. 36 (Prhythm) or
>> Arensky: 24 Morceau characteristiques, Op. 36 (Alfred)
>> 5 Chopin Mazurka in A minor, Op. 17 No. 4 Chopin: Mazurkas (Henle)
>> 6 Ireland Columbine Ireland: The Collected Piano Works, Vol. 4 (Stainer &
>> Bell)
>> 7 Janáček Andante (No. 1 from In the Mists) Janáček: In the Mists
>> (Bärenreiter)
>> 8 Rachmaninoff Moment musical in D-, Op. 16 No. 5 Rachmaninoff: Six
>> moments
>> musicaux, Op. 16 (Simrock)
>> 9 Schubert Impromptu in A- (No. 2 from Four Impromptus, Op. 142, D. 935)
>> Schubert: Impromptus, Op. 142 (ABRSM) or
>> Schubert: Impromptus and Moments musicaux (Henle) or Core Classics,
>> Grades
>> 7–8 (ABRSM)
>> 10 Schumann Romanze in F+ (No. 2 from Drei Romanzen, Op. 28)
>> Schumann: Drei Romanzen, Op. 28 (ABRSM)
>> 11 A. Beach A Hermit Thrush at Morn, Op. 92 No. 2 Piano Music of Amy
>> Beach
>> (Hal Leonard) or Amy Beach Piano Music (Dover) A B
>> 38
>> Piano 2023 & 2024 Grade 8 Practical Grades COMPOSER PIECE / WORK /
>> ARRANGER
>> PUBLICATION (PUBLISHER)
>> 12 Beethoven Adagio cantabile (2nd movt from Sonata in C minor
>> ‘Pathétique’,
>> Op. 13)
>> Beethoven: Sonata in C minor, Op. 13 (Pathétique)
>> (ABRSM) or
>> Beethoven: The 35 Piano Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM) or
>> Beethoven: Complete Pianoforte Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM)
>> 13 Tailleferre Impromptu Tailleferre: Impromptu (Editions Jobert)
>> 1 Albéniz Rumores de La Caleta (Malagueña) (No. 6 from Recuerdos de
>> viaje,
>> Op. 71) Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> 2 Debussy Arabesque No. 2 (from Deux arabesques, L. 66) Piano Exam Pieces
>> 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
>> 3 J. P. Johnson Over the Bars Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8
>> (ABRSM)
>> 4 Chaminade Pierrette (Air de Ballet), Op. 41 Piano Music by Female
>> Composers (4th revised edition
>> 2011) (Schott)
>> 5 Chen Peixun Thunder in Drought Season 100 Years of Chinese Piano
>> Music: Vol. III Works in
>> Traditional Style, Book II Instrumental Music (Shanghai Conservatory of
>> Music Press)
>> 6 Debussy Rêverie Debussy: Rêverie (Editions Jobert) or Night and Dreams
>> (Schott)
>> 7 Khachaturian Toccata Khachaturian: Toccata (Boosey & Hawkes)
>> 8 Uwe Korn Caballos Españoles Tango Meets Jazz (Schott)
>> 9 Cecilia
>> McDowall
>> Vespers in Venice (from Four Piano Solos) Cecilia McDowall: Four Piano
>> Solos
>> (Hunt Edition)
>> 10 Villa-Lobos O polichinelo (from A prole do bebê no.1) Villa-Lobos:
>> O polichinelo (Eschig) or
>> Beyond the Romantic Spirit, Book 2 (Alfred)
>> 11 Bartók Dance in Bulgarian Rhythm No. 6 (No.153 from
>> Mikrokosmos)
>> Bartók: Six Dances in Bulgarian Rhythm (Henle) or
>> Bartók: Mikrokosmos, Vol. 6 (Boosey & Hawkes)
>> 12 Zoe Rahman Go with the Flow Nikki Iles and Friends, Book 2 (ABRSM)
>> 13 Trad. Irish Danny Boy, arr. Iles Jazz in Autumn (OUP)
>>
>>
>> Thank you with all my heart.
>>
>> Ruby.
>>
>> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Ruby,
>>>
>>> Yes please send through the PDF. If you can’t attach it here you can
>>> send it to me at jeaniewillis at gmail.com
>>>
>>>> On 4/06/2023, at 11:00 PM, ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss
>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Genie, Thank you so much, you are so kind and understanding, I am
>>>> so touched by your message, I really mean it. I would like to attach
>>>> that Grade 8  PDF file to you, if there is option here otherwise, I
>>>> have to send it privately to you.let me see.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you really, appreciate it.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards, Ruby.
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Ruby,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you give me an easy to read list of the pieces for both main
>>>>> syllabus and alternatives in an e-mail I will have a search and see
>>>>> which of them I can find tomorrow.  It is getting late here so I am
>>>>> going to get some dinner and go to bed.  Usually the ABRSM Grade 8
>>>>> always has a prelude and fugue for list A and most of those are
>>>>> going to be able to be found.  So if your student is willing to do
>>>>> the pieces we can find you music for then I think we have a good
>>>>> chance.  So don't stress, just send the list, smile.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, you have a much better chance of getting just the three pieces
>>>>> transcribed by either ABRSM or other transcribers.  So if we can't
>>>>> find what you need then my suggestion would be listen to the pieces
>>>>> and decide which 3 and just ask for those to be transcribed rather
>>>>> than the whole book.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeanie
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeanie
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 8:01 PM
>>>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>>>>> Cc: ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Genie and Ella, yes I agree what genie says that it will
>>>>> be easy if I can have BRF or XML music file, but how to get and
>>>>> where to get is my anxiety, I have written to Bill Mcann dancingdots
>>>>> whether they can transcribe the book of grade 8  ABRSM the latest
>>>>> syllabus
>>>>> 2023-2024 for me, bill hasn't responded, perhaps I will write to
>>>>> Albert today too if he can help me with the transcription. in the
>>>>> website of ABRSM under specific needs and under partially sighted
>>>>> and visually impaired,
>>>>> 2023-2024 syllabus isn't available of course, I did not write to
>>>>> them if they can get the BRF file for grade 8  of this latest
>>>>> syllabus, I'll try that as well today. The student is an adult, a
>>>>> nun from the congrigation Daughters Of Charity, Sister Magdelena She
>>>>> doesn't select on Her own anything but, leans on me too much. I told
>>>>> Her to go to some other teacher, She isn't listening, I tried my
>>>>> best to telling Her lot of obstacles are there, unless I have a copy
>>>>> in Braille, I cannot teach, this She doesn't understand, has no
>>>>> notion of what braille is, or what a blind person does to teach a
>>>>> student, Anyway, I don't know what to do, I am in a bad soop.Besides
>>>>> the melody of these pieces in grade Eight are not so much catchy, I
>>>>> like some of
>>>>> the pieces of the alternative pieces, there is Danny   Boy,that is in
>>>>> the list C and there is the second piece in list A   How to make Her
>>>>> to buy  the alternative pieces I have to find a way. as Genie says,
>>>>> we love to teach music, so, we keep searching for different ways
>>>>> that are accessible for us. I'll let you know which pieces Sister
>>>>> and I choose.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you a lot, I truely appreciate you both for your understanding
>>>>> me and trying your best to support me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ruby.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss
>>>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes I agree, Ruby, let us know what the specific pieces you are
>>>>>> looking for are and we can try to find them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have just been on ABC and downloaded a bunch more repertoire books.
>>>>>> My plan over time is to catalogue the individual pieces within all
>>>>>> of these so that when someone needs an individual piece we will
>>>>>> know if it is tucked away in a book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately it doesn’t look like CNIB did a good cataloguing job
>>>>>> of the RCM materials.  There are a lot of books just labelled as
>>>>>> RCM examination with no idea what grade or whether they are even
>>>>>> piano, voice, etc.  I will check our local library here in case
>>>>>> they did any better when they received them from ABC.  Otherwise it
>>>>>> would be a case of downloading them all and opening and reading.
>>>>>> I’m still a pretty slow Braille reader so not feeling very excited
>>>>>> about this, but I might be somewhere quicker with notepad and
>>>>>> screen reader, my askii interpretation is improving, lol.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I did notice hundreds of individual pieces of titles I
>>>>>> recognised as exam pieces on ABC, so will be happy to do a search
>>>>>> once we know those titles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeanie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of Ella Yu via Menvi-discuss
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 11:04 AM
>>>>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>>>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Ella Yu <ellaxyu at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all, RCM goes up to level 10 and then there's a grad level, just
>>>>>> for reference. Sadly, finding the actual repertoire books in
>>>>>> braille is very difficult, and is made worse by the new CNIB
>>>>>> library thing which seems to have removed a lot of older braille
>>>>>> music titles. I think the best course of action is to figure out
>>>>>> which pieces you need, and we can try to help you source them.
>>>>>> Finding braille music is very hard a lot of the time, and what is
>>>>>> available is very restrictive. Having optical music recognition
>>>>>> helps a lot, but you still need sighted assistance to get it to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 3:38 PM Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss
>>>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org <mailto:menvi-discuss at menvi.org> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ruby,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has your student chosen her pieces yet?  Can you tell us what they
>>>>>> are and we can see if we can find a brf or even xml in another exam
>>>>>> book or sheet music.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you contacted ABRSM special needs and asked them for these
>>>>>> specific pieces to be urgently transcribed?  Did you get a response?
>>>>>> You could also try contacting the publishers as listed in the print
>>>>>> book directly and see if there is any way they can release the xml
>>>>>> or similar file to you to convert to Braille.  I sometimes find
>>>>>> that making an e-mail a CC to several different departments or
>>>>>> people within an organisation makes it harder for them to all
>>>>>> ignore, so keep trying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you should give up trying to find a way to convert the
>>>>>> music from pdf or scanned image as this is just not going to be
>>>>>> good enough for you as a teacher.  Even if you got all the notes,
>>>>>> which is unlikely you will be missing essential articulation,
>>>>>> fingering and many other things.  An existing brf or xml will be much
>>>>>> closer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we can help you find a brf or xml do you have a way set up to
>>>>>> edit the Braille?  My suggestion is that you could either pay a
>>>>>> transcriber to compare the brf that isn't the original ABRSM and
>>>>>> edit it to add any small details that are different.  This should
>>>>>> be much less expensive than transcribing from scratch.  Or, you
>>>>>> could go through with your student either a few bars at a time or
>>>>>> through a topic such as all the dynamics in a piece, or the pedal
>>>>>> marks, or the articulation and get them to read out what it does so
>>>>>> you can check and edit them.  This is a little time consuming, but
>>>>>> also might help your student to become much more familiar with the
>>>>>> pieces.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only other option is to pay to have them transcribed if you can.
>>>>>> I do understand how frustrating this all is.  I have been very
>>>>>> frustrated myself this past year with just how little is available
>>>>>> and I think over time it is easy to become desensitised to the
>>>>>> hugegaping cavern between what is available to a teacher in print
>>>>>> and what in Braille which is so crazily restrictive.  It is also
>>>>>> impossible to even add up all the extra hours spent to get to the
>>>>>> same starting point of having the music ready to begin teaching.
>>>>>> But, I guess we love what we do and so somehow we find a way!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If someone can tell me whether the RCM exams are the same Grade
>>>>>> level I can download the past ones from ABC and check through those
>>>>>> also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeanie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 6:24 AM
>>>>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>>>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org <mailto:menvi-discuss at menvi.org> >
>>>>>> Cc: ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:rubyalphonse at gmail.com> >
>>>>>> Subject: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello list members, please can anyone tell me where to get braille
>>>>>> transcribed I need very urgently grade 8  2023-2024 syllabus a
>>>>>> braille copy to teach a student, there isn't BRF file available on
>>>>>> the website of ABRSM specific needs. This student wants to prepare
>>>>>> from now on to do the exams next year, so I cannot use the previous
>>>>>> syllabus, so please anyone knows where I can get hard copy of this
>>>>>> Grade 8  ABRSM
>>>>>> 2023-2024 syllabus. or BRF file, I can get them embossed here. Any
>>>>>> help is appreciated deeply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you all in advance,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ruby.
>>>>>>
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