[Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces

Jeanie Willis jeaniewillis at gmail.com
Sun Jun 4 16:32:19 EDT 2023


Thanks Ruby, I can see there are a number of these straight away that I know I've seen in Braille.  I will do some searching and come back to you off list with where you can get them.  Maybe you could just post a list again after that of the ones I can't find in case anyone else has any further ideas.  Looks like Ella has found you an awesome list of xml files also. Lol I don't think she sleeps much, smile, a dedicated researcher.


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Cc: ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces

Hi Jeanie, I coppied from ABRSM website only the names, so, I will paste it here,  1 J. S. Bach Prelude and Fugue in B-, BWV 866 Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
2 Mozart Allegro (1st movt from Sonata in F, K. 332) Piano Exam Pieces
2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
3 Schubert Moment musical in C+ minor (No. 4 from Moments musicaux, D. 780) Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
4 J. S. Bach Prelude and Fugue in G, BWV 884 J. S. Bach: The Well-Tempered Clavier, Part 2 (ABRSM)
5 Beethoven Allegro (1st movt from Sonata in E, Op. 14 No. 1)
Beethoven: Sonata in E, Op. 14 No. 1 (ABRSM) or
Beethoven: The 35 Piano Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM) or
Beethoven: Complete Pianoforte Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM)
6 Handel Prelude and Allegro (Fuga) (1st and 2nd movts from Suite No. 8 in F minor, HWV 433)
Handel: Eight Great Suites, Book 2 (ABRSM) or
Handel: Keyboard Works, Vol. 1 (Bärenreiter)
7 Martínez Allegro/Moderato (1st movt from Sonata in A) Piano Music by Female Composers (4th revised edition
2011) (Schott) or
Core Classics, Grades 7–8 (ABRSM)
8 Mozart Andante grazioso and Vars. 1–6 (1st movt from Sonata in A, K. 331)
Mozart: Sonata in A, K. 331 (ABRSM) or
Mozart: Sonatas for Pianoforte, Vol. 2 (ABRSM)
9 Rameau Les cyclopes (from Pièces de clavecin) Rameau: Les cyclopes / Les sauvages (Bärenreiter) or
Rameau: Pièces de clavecin (Heugel)
10 D. Scarlatti Sonata in D, Kp. 443, L. 418 Pp. 4–7 from D.
Scarlatti: Selected Keyboard Sonatas,
Book 1 (ABRSM) or
D. Scarlatti: 200 Sonatas, Vol. 4 (EMB Zeneműkiadó)
11 Haydn Allegro con brio (1st movt from Sonata in D, Hob. XVI:37)
Haydn: Selected Keyboard Sonatas, Book 3 (ABRSM) or
Haydn: Complete Piano Sonatas, Vol. 3 (Wiener Urtext)
12 Stephen
Hough
Toccatina (5th movt from Suite R-B) Stephen Hough: Suite R-B and Other Enigmas
(Weinberger)
13 C. Schumann Un poco agitato (No. 2 from Quatre pièces fugitives, Op. 15) C. Schumann: Romantic Piano Music (Vol. 2)
(Bärenreiter) or
C. Schumann: Quatre pièces fugitives Op. 15 (Breitkopf & Härtel)
1 S. ColeridgeTaylor
Impromptu in B minor (No. 2 from
Two Impromptus)
Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
2 Farrenc Étude in D-, Op. 41 No. 5 Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
3 Tchaikovsky Juin: Barcarolle (No. 6 from Les saisons, Op. 37b) Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
4 Arensky Nocturne in D- (No. 3 from 24 Characteristic Pieces, Op. 36)
Arensky: 24 Characteristic Pieces, Op. 36 (Prhythm) or
Arensky: 24 Morceau characteristiques, Op. 36 (Alfred)
5 Chopin Mazurka in A minor, Op. 17 No. 4 Chopin: Mazurkas (Henle)
6 Ireland Columbine Ireland: The Collected Piano Works, Vol. 4 (Stainer & Bell)
7 Janáček Andante (No. 1 from In the Mists) Janáček: In the Mists (Bärenreiter)
8 Rachmaninoff Moment musical in D-, Op. 16 No. 5 Rachmaninoff: Six moments musicaux, Op. 16 (Simrock)
9 Schubert Impromptu in A- (No. 2 from Four Impromptus, Op. 142, D. 935)
Schubert: Impromptus, Op. 142 (ABRSM) or
Schubert: Impromptus and Moments musicaux (Henle) or Core Classics, Grades 7–8 (ABRSM)
10 Schumann Romanze in F+ (No. 2 from Drei Romanzen, Op. 28)
Schumann: Drei Romanzen, Op. 28 (ABRSM)
11 A. Beach A Hermit Thrush at Morn, Op. 92 No. 2 Piano Music of Amy Beach (Hal Leonard) or Amy Beach Piano Music (Dover) A B
38
Piano 2023 & 2024 Grade 8 Practical Grades COMPOSER PIECE / WORK / ARRANGER PUBLICATION (PUBLISHER)
12 Beethoven Adagio cantabile (2nd movt from Sonata in C minor ‘Pathétique’, Op. 13)
Beethoven: Sonata in C minor, Op. 13 (Pathétique)
(ABRSM) or
Beethoven: The 35 Piano Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM) or
Beethoven: Complete Pianoforte Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM)
13 Tailleferre Impromptu Tailleferre: Impromptu (Editions Jobert)
1 Albéniz Rumores de La Caleta (Malagueña) (No. 6 from Recuerdos de viaje, Op. 71) Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
2 Debussy Arabesque No. 2 (from Deux arabesques, L. 66) Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
3 J. P. Johnson Over the Bars Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)
4 Chaminade Pierrette (Air de Ballet), Op. 41 Piano Music by Female Composers (4th revised edition
2011) (Schott)
5 Chen Peixun Thunder in Drought Season 100 Years of Chinese Piano
Music: Vol. III Works in
Traditional Style, Book II Instrumental Music (Shanghai Conservatory of Music Press)
6 Debussy Rêverie Debussy: Rêverie (Editions Jobert) or Night and Dreams (Schott)
7 Khachaturian Toccata Khachaturian: Toccata (Boosey & Hawkes)
8 Uwe Korn Caballos Españoles Tango Meets Jazz (Schott)
9 Cecilia
McDowall
Vespers in Venice (from Four Piano Solos) Cecilia McDowall: Four Piano Solos (Hunt Edition)
10 Villa-Lobos O polichinelo (from A prole do bebê no.1) Villa-Lobos:
O polichinelo (Eschig) or
Beyond the Romantic Spirit, Book 2 (Alfred)
11 Bartók Dance in Bulgarian Rhythm No. 6 (No.153 from
Mikrokosmos)
Bartók: Six Dances in Bulgarian Rhythm (Henle) or
Bartók: Mikrokosmos, Vol. 6 (Boosey & Hawkes)
12 Zoe Rahman Go with the Flow Nikki Iles and Friends, Book 2 (ABRSM)
13 Trad. Irish Danny Boy, arr. Iles Jazz in Autumn (OUP)


Thank you with all my heart.

Ruby.

On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
> Hi Ruby,
>
> Yes please send through the PDF. If you can’t attach it here you can 
> send it to me at jeaniewillis at gmail.com
>
>> On 4/06/2023, at 11:00 PM, ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss 
>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Genie, Thank you so much, you are so kind and understanding, I am 
>> so touched by your message, I really mean it. I would like to attach 
>> that Grade 8  PDF file to you, if there is option here otherwise, I 
>> have to send it privately to you.let me see.
>>
>> Thank you really, appreciate it.
>>
>> Kind Regards, Ruby.
>>
>>> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi Ruby,
>>>
>>> If you give me an easy to read list of the pieces for both main 
>>> syllabus and alternatives in an e-mail I will have a search and see 
>>> which of them I can find tomorrow.  It is getting late here so I am 
>>> going to get some dinner and go to bed.  Usually the ABRSM Grade 8 
>>> always has a prelude and fugue for list A and most of those are 
>>> going to be able to be found.  So if your student is willing to do 
>>> the pieces we can find you music for then I think we have a good 
>>> chance.  So don't stress, just send the list, smile.
>>>
>>> Also, you have a much better chance of getting just the three pieces 
>>> transcribed by either ABRSM or other transcribers.  So if we can't 
>>> find what you need then my suggestion would be listen to the pieces 
>>> and decide which 3 and just ask for those to be transcribed rather 
>>> than the whole book.
>>>
>>> Jeanie
>>>
>>> Jeanie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 8:01 PM
>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy 
>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>>> Cc: ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>>>
>>> Thank you Genie and Ella, yes I agree what genie says that it will 
>>> be easy if I can have BRF or XML music file, but how to get and 
>>> where to get is my anxiety, I have written to Bill Mcann dancingdots 
>>> whether they can transcribe the book of grade 8  ABRSM the latest 
>>> syllabus
>>> 2023-2024 for me, bill hasn't responded, perhaps I will write to 
>>> Albert today too if he can help me with the transcription. in the 
>>> website of ABRSM under specific needs and under partially sighted 
>>> and visually impaired,
>>> 2023-2024 syllabus isn't available of course, I did not write to 
>>> them if they can get the BRF file for grade 8  of this latest 
>>> syllabus, I'll try that as well today. The student is an adult, a 
>>> nun from the congrigation Daughters Of Charity, Sister Magdelena She 
>>> doesn't select on Her own anything but, leans on me too much. I told 
>>> Her to go to some other teacher, She isn't listening, I tried my 
>>> best to telling Her lot of obstacles are there, unless I have a copy 
>>> in Braille, I cannot teach, this She doesn't understand, has no 
>>> notion of what braille is, or what a blind person does to teach a 
>>> student, Anyway, I don't know what to do, I am in a bad soop.Besides 
>>> the melody of these pieces in grade Eight are not so much catchy, I 
>>> like some of
>>> the pieces of the alternative pieces, there is Danny   Boy,that is in
>>> the list C and there is the second piece in list A   How to make Her
>>> to buy  the alternative pieces I have to find a way. as Genie says, 
>>> we love to teach music, so, we keep searching for different ways 
>>> that are accessible for us. I'll let you know which pieces Sister 
>>> and I choose.
>>>
>>> Thank you a lot, I truely appreciate you both for your understanding 
>>> me and trying your best to support me.
>>>
>>> Thank you again.
>>>
>>> Ruby.
>>>
>>>> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss 
>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Yes I agree, Ruby, let us know what the specific pieces you are 
>>>> looking for are and we can try to find them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have just been on ABC and downloaded a bunch more repertoire books.
>>>> My plan over time is to catalogue the individual pieces within all 
>>>> of these so that when someone needs an individual piece we will 
>>>> know if it is tucked away in a book.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it doesn’t look like CNIB did a good cataloguing job 
>>>> of the RCM materials.  There are a lot of books just labelled as 
>>>> RCM examination with no idea what grade or whether they are even 
>>>> piano, voice, etc.  I will check our local library here in case 
>>>> they did any better when they received them from ABC.  Otherwise it 
>>>> would be a case of downloading them all and opening and reading.  
>>>> I’m still a pretty slow Braille reader so not feeling very excited 
>>>> about this, but I might be somewhere quicker with notepad and 
>>>> screen reader, my askii interpretation is improving, lol.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But I did notice hundreds of individual pieces of titles I 
>>>> recognised as exam pieces on ABC, so will be happy to do a search 
>>>> once we know those titles.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeanie
>>>>
>>>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of Ella Yu via Menvi-discuss
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 11:04 AM
>>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy 
>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
>>>> Cc: Ella Yu <ellaxyu at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all, RCM goes up to level 10 and then there's a grad level, just 
>>>> for reference. Sadly, finding the actual repertoire books in 
>>>> braille is very difficult, and is made worse by the new CNIB 
>>>> library thing which seems to have removed a lot of older braille 
>>>> music titles. I think the best course of action is to figure out 
>>>> which pieces you need, and we can try to help you source them. 
>>>> Finding braille music is very hard a lot of the time, and what is 
>>>> available is very restrictive. Having optical music recognition 
>>>> helps a lot, but you still need sighted assistance to get it to work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 3:38 PM Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss 
>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org <mailto:menvi-discuss at menvi.org> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ruby,
>>>>
>>>> Has your student chosen her pieces yet?  Can you tell us what they 
>>>> are and we can see if we can find a brf or even xml in another exam 
>>>> book or sheet music.
>>>>
>>>> Have you contacted ABRSM special needs and asked them for these 
>>>> specific pieces to be urgently transcribed?  Did you get a response?
>>>> You could also try contacting the publishers as listed in the print 
>>>> book directly and see if there is any way they can release the xml 
>>>> or similar file to you to convert to Braille.  I sometimes find 
>>>> that making an e-mail a CC to several different departments or 
>>>> people within an organisation makes it harder for them to all 
>>>> ignore, so keep trying.
>>>>
>>>> I think you should give up trying to find a way to convert the 
>>>> music from pdf or scanned image as this is just not going to be 
>>>> good enough for you as a teacher.  Even if you got all the notes, 
>>>> which is unlikely you will be missing essential articulation, 
>>>> fingering and many other things.  An existing brf or xml will be much closer.
>>>>
>>>> If we can help you find a brf or xml do you have a way set up to 
>>>> edit the Braille?  My suggestion is that you could either pay a 
>>>> transcriber to compare the brf that isn't the original ABRSM and 
>>>> edit it to add any small details that are different.  This should 
>>>> be much less expensive than transcribing from scratch.  Or, you 
>>>> could go through with your student either a few bars at a time or 
>>>> through a topic such as all the dynamics in a piece, or the pedal 
>>>> marks, or the articulation and get them to read out what it does so 
>>>> you can check and edit them.  This is a little time consuming, but 
>>>> also might help your student to become much more familiar with the pieces.
>>>>
>>>> The only other option is to pay to have them transcribed if you can.
>>>> I do understand how frustrating this all is.  I have been very 
>>>> frustrated myself this past year with just how little is available 
>>>> and I think over time it is easy to become desensitised to the 
>>>> hugegaping cavern between what is available to a teacher in print 
>>>> and what in Braille which is so crazily restrictive.  It is also 
>>>> impossible to even add up all the extra hours spent to get to the 
>>>> same starting point of having the music ready to begin teaching.  
>>>> But, I guess we love what we do and so somehow we find a way!
>>>>
>>>> If someone can tell me whether the RCM exams are the same Grade 
>>>> level I can download the past ones from ABC and check through those also.
>>>>
>>>> Jeanie
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 6:24 AM
>>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy 
>>>> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org <mailto:menvi-discuss at menvi.org> >
>>>> Cc: ruby alphonse <rubyalphonse at gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:rubyalphonse at gmail.com> >
>>>> Subject: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces
>>>>
>>>> Hello list members, please can anyone tell me where to get braille 
>>>> transcribed I need very urgently grade 8  2023-2024 syllabus a 
>>>> braille copy to teach a student, there isn't BRF file available on 
>>>> the website of ABRSM specific needs. This student wants to prepare 
>>>> from now on to do the exams next year, so I cannot use the previous 
>>>> syllabus, so please anyone knows where I can get hard copy of this 
>>>> Grade 8  ABRSM
>>>> 2023-2024 syllabus. or BRF file, I can get them embossed here. Any 
>>>> help is appreciated deeply.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you all in advance,
>>>>
>>>> Ruby.
>>>>
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