[Menvi-discuss] Help with score

Wed Dec 27 02:23:12 EST 2023

Hi Dewald, I would tend to trust the way Sao Mai translates things more
than what shows up in MuseScore's braille panel, as MuseScore's braille
output is very primitive compared to Sao Mai's. Also, the Braille editor
you're referring to on the Mantis should be called KeyBRF (unless it really
does go by a different name). Nonetheless, braille editor is the correct
application to use.

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 11:00 PM Dewald van Deventer via Menvi-discuss <
menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:

> Hi. Yes it's working fine now thanks. I've just noticed that, for a trill
> or appajatora they use different conventions:
> In one case,like Musescore Braille editor displays it as notes followed by
> the 126 345 sign, followed by the actual notes you must play.
> Where others just give you the fingerings.
> It's quite weird.
>
> If we can do a test to see if everything is working well, that would be
> great!
> I don't use Victor Reader or KeyBraille. The Mantis has only an Editor and
> aBraille Editor.
>
> Thanks
> Dewald
>
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> On 27 Dec 2023, at 02:38, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss <
> menvi-discuss at menvi.org> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Dewald,
>
>
>
> Did you manage to get this working?
>
> If not can I check the basic steps you have used.  I have the Brailliant
> 40 which is the same software as the Mantis.
>
>
>
>    1. Open Musescore and open the musescore file you downloaded.
>    2. Go to File/Export and select xml from the first drop down box.  In
>    the second drop down box which you can arrow to after closing the first one
>    with space bar or enter I usually select uncompressed, but maybe sao Mai is
>    fine with compressed, I don’t use the older legacy one. Tab to export and
>    save your file.
>    3. Open SMB and use Ctrl N to create a new print document.
>    4. Press Alt F11 to insert a musicxml and choose your file.
>    5. Press Ctrl T to translate.
>    6. Save your new Braille music file as brf.
>
> Now it is quite possible that you might not be seeing music or anything
> else with your Mantis in sao Mai until some further set up is done of
> screen reader and other settings.  So to eliminate all of the connection
> issues between the mantis, screen reader and various software can you move
> the file you have created to the books folder of the Mantis either by
> connecting it to your PC or via SD card, etc.  Once it is in the books
> folder go to Victor reader from the main menu and then select book list and
> find the file and open it and see how it looks.
>
>
>
> If this is looking fine here then we can start working on how to get your
> Mantis connected correctly so that you can use it for music with the PC and
> edit the music also in the key brf editor.
>
>
>
> If the music doesn’t show correctly at this point can you e-mail either me
> or Ella the musescore file or a link to download it from musescore.com so
> we can give it a test? And maybe give us a heads up as to what bars these
> strange symbols you are seeing are in.  I often find it useful to open the
> MuseScore file and take a look at a bar directly if the braille isn’t
> making sense, usually it is something I don’t know, rather than something
> Sao Mai has got wrong.
>
>
>
> Jeanie
>
>
>
> If you want to be able to edit the filefurther on the Mantis then use the
> Key brf editor as Ella described, but I find the Victor reader easier to
> navigate for just reading.
>
>
>
> *From:* Menvi-discuss *On Behalf Of *Dewald van Deventer via Menvi-discuss
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2023 11:38 PM
> *To:* menvi-discuss at menvi.org
> *Cc:* Dewald van Deventer <dewaldvandeventer at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* [Menvi-discuss] Help with score
>
>
>
> Hi list. I'm not sure if my message came through yet or not.
>
> I downloaded a Chopin Nocturne score yesterday, and tried to convert it
> with Sau Mai Braille on my PC.
>
> When I read it on my Braille display, a Mantis from APH, I see some pretty
> weird signs that I don't know.
>
> Are there some settings that I must change in Sau Mai, or did I forget a
> step?
>
> I downloaded the file from Musescore, imported it into Musescore, exported
> it as mxl, imported that into Sau Mai and transcribed it.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Dewald
>
>
>
> Dewald van Deventer
>
> Happy Pianos Tuning and Servicing
>
> RPT "Registered Piano Technician of the Piano Technicians' Guild"
>
>
>
> Make an online booking here:
>
> https://gazelleapp.io/scheduling/RbfBgYQM3dsLGmCDZBTfMYwQ
> <https://gazelleapp.io/scheduling/RbfBgYQM3dsLGmCDZBTfMYwQ>
>
>
>
> Cell:
>
> 0824614865
>
> E-mail:
>
> dewaldpianotuner at gmail.com
>
> Visit my website:
>
> Http://www.Happy-Pianos.com/
>
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>
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>
>
>
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