[Menvi-discuss] Quearies about Good feel

Fri Nov 30 11:27:32 EST 2012

Hi,
Thank you so much for this great comparison!
Do professors usually request fancy printing for say, theory assignments?
Also, what music editing feature differences are their between these two
products?
Thanks again, and have a great weekend!

In Christ, Miranda

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David Goldstein - Resource Center
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 10:55 AM
To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Quearies about Good feel

Regarding Sibelius, as I understand it, yes, there are scripts that make it
usable.  The current scripts are for version 5, and the current version
Sibelius sells is 7.  We have been eagerly waiting for scripts for version
6, which has a "magnetic" feature that will solve some problems for blind
people in making sure music parts don't run into each other on the page. 
Many schools are one or two versions behind, but 7 has been out for a while
now and probably most schools have it.

As a mainstream program, access is not as straightforward as with Lime and
will probably require more time and patience to learn, and some initial
frustration.  Blind studens at the Berklee College of Music use it in their
lab, but they also still need Lime and GOODFEEL.

The main advantage of using Lime and GOODFEEL is that, if you have a braille
display, you can read the music as you enter it immediately on the braille
display.  Also, the process of brailling music from Lime is seamless,
whereas with Sibelius, you will need to do at least one more conversion
step, and the resulting braille you get may not be accurate.

So the choice is between using something that lots of people know, which may
not work fluently for you and doesn't provide braille support, or using Lime
and GOODFEEL, , which has fewer features for music editing and fancy
printing, but does provide maximum independence and braille right away.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Miranda B." <knownoflove at gmail.com>
To: "'This is for discussing music and braille literacy'" 
<menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Quearies about Good feel

Hi,
I know about Goodfeel as a very viable option, but I was completely unaware
that Sibelius was even accessible with scripts.
I'm interested in continuing to learn everyone's opinions about both
options.
Thanks for sharing, and have an awesome weekend!

In Christ, Miranda

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Chris Smart
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:13 PM
To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
Cc: blindeudora-freelists.org
Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Quearies about Good feel

Braille music into print? By that I assume you just mean producing print for
sighted people. The two options you have are Lime with Lime Aloud, or
Sibelius 5.25 with the Sibelius Access scripts. For putting things into
Braille, your option is Goodfeel. That's it.

At 08:03 PM 11/29/2012, you wrote:
>What does a totally blind student need in order to produce Braille
>music in to print, and print music into Braille?
>
>Debra
>
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>From: Menvi-discuss [mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] On Behalf
>Of Brandon Keith Biggs
>Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 5:43 PM
>To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Quearies about Good feel
>
>Hello,
>It is excellent for a few pieces here and there, but I wouldn't use it
>for a
>
>student unless they are only in choir. My school tried to get out of
>hiring a transcriber and lets just say they have 2 now. The amount of
>music I get as a voice student is massive and way beyond someone who
>doesn't know music Braille to handle.
>But for one or two pieces here and there it is great! It is also
>awesome if you are in a pinch and need some music in an hour or so.
>Lime however is required for any student wanting to do music theory and
>read their work when
>
>it is finished.
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon Keith Biggs
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ria Andriani
>Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:45 AM
>To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>Subject: [Menvi-discuss] Quearies about Goodfeel
>
>Hi list,
>
>I found out about Goodfeel (print to braille music convertion
>software) a few days ago.
>
>I wonder if anyone else has used it and how do you find it? What type
>of files are compatible and how accurate is the convertion? Would it
>work with vocal music?
>
>Thanks in advance for your feedback.
>
>--
>Ria Andriani
>University of New South Wales
>Bachelor of music/Bachelor of arts
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