[Menvi-discuss] Keeping Braille Music Organized?

Sun Jul 15 02:23:19 EDT 2012

Um ... if your Mom's a TVI, why don't you ask if you can check out what she
uses with her students? That way if she uses the floppy binders or the
pocket folders or the hard cover three-ring binder, you'll be able to see
ahead of time what you're getting?

-----Original Message-----
From: menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org
[mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:02 PM
To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Keeping Braille Music Organized?

    Yes, I believe the big notebook is solid.
Possibly I could keep a couple anthologies in it...
True, I see what you mean, but I like to pull out my pages that I'm working
on and keep them in a place I can easily get to.
I'll probably just get an order of everything but the big guy and see how it
works out.
Thank you!

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Cristina Jones
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:56 PM
To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Keeping Braille Music Organized?

I have.  It really depends on what you want.  THe nice thing about the big
braille notebook is that it's solid, if it's the one I'm thinking of.  I.e.,
everything won't get too terribly squashed.  They can get heavy, though.  It
really depends on what you're sticking in the binder and how much music.  If
you are unable to get the music as braille files and really have to have to
have to keep your music in nice condition, I would get the big notebook
that's solid.  You should call to make sure it's solid, though, because I
could potentially be misleading you.
As far as the pocket things go ...  I personally found those to be a pain,
particularly for pieces that are two or more pages because it would imply
that those particular pages are loose and not tied down to the rings of a
binder.  It's just easier to get all over the place and find that you're
missing a page.  So I like punching holes in my music and shovi ng them in
binders.  Again, it's a preference thing.

On 7/14/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
> Awesome thanks!
> I'm going to try these. Have you tried the Braille paper pocket holder 
> or the big notebook?
> https://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_communication%2
> 0modes%20braille%20writing%20materials%20braille%20writing%20accessori
> es%20student%20pack%20office%20pack%20paper%20organization%20organizin
> g_1257548P_10001_11051
>
> https://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_communication%2
> 0modes%20braille%20writing%20materials%20daily%20living%20braille%20re
> ading%20writing%20braille%20writing%20materials%20braille%20binders%20
> family%20notebooks%20paper%20organizing%20organization_1257891P_10001_
> 11051
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cristina Jones
> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:32 PM
> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Keeping Braille Music Organized?
>
> Yes.  Here you go.  And on that page has the link to other things.
> Would you like me to get you the link for dividers as well?  This 
> particular link comes with 3 floppy binders for about $20.
> https://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=
> 10001&catalogId=11051&krypto=w%2FE%2FZ6s4BbN1wRgZE03t9NNay%2BUAXlF1TsB
> KEUQCigj57vkSuLkMS13kE9P5hY2aM5GaWdD%2BD8Ai%0D%0Ax7Q3xH2f2%2FOnluHBk8O
> X&ddkey=http:ProductDisplay You may be able to find this on Amazon or 
> Ebay for cheaper.  I haven't looked since I haven't looked for these 
> particular binders in a long time, but now that I'm thinking about it, 
> I probably should.  I'll look and if I find anything, I'll send you 
> the link.  Meanwhile, this is the link for you to check it out.
> Hope this all helped.
> Cristina
>
> On 7/14/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Do you have a link to the ones you do use please? Because I can't 
>> seem to find them.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cristina Jones
>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 5:52 PM
>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Keeping Braille Music Organized?
>>
>> I'm not sure if you were replying to me or not, but I personally 
>> don't use those.
>>
>> On 7/14/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> Are those binders:
>>> https://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_Covers%20for%
>>> 20Braille%20Documents,%20Royal%20Blue_1184770P_10001_11051
>>> or are they something different?
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Cristina Jones
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 5:37 PM
>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Keeping Braille Music Organized?
>>>
>>> A few things ...
>>>
>>> Keeping electronic copies: I've started getting a BRF of these music 
>>> files as well, if I can.  Let's be honest.  Braille dots die over 
>>> time, and if you squeeze them onto a shelf like I have to, then 
>>> "Dearest Mama" starts looking like "nearest Nana".  If you have the 
>>> BRF along with the hard copy of the Braille, you can always 
>>> re-emboss it if you have to.  Not just that, but you can use a 
>>> braille note taker or something to edit that BRF file with the 
>>> changes the conductor, teacher, whoever decides to have you make, or 
>>> just what you decide to do.  Somehow, I doubt my regular transcriber 
>>> would be thrilled if I called him and said: "Richard, the orchestra 
>>> has piano here and forte four bars later.  Can you notate that in 
>>> the vocal line?  Thanks.  You're a doll."  Also, if you lead the 
>>> typical college lifestyle or any kind of lifestyle that's not the 
>>> most stable as far as living situation and you have to move around a 
>>> bit more than you'd like to admit to Lord knows whose closet for 
>>> renting space, the Braille files are nice to have in case something 
>>> gets misplaced or you decide that for the sake of expense, you need 
>>> to contribute to global warming and toss/recycle a few volumes.  For 
>>> instance, I'm looking to move abroad in about a year.  I do not 
>>> foresee myself lugging all three book shelves that are crammed with 
>>> regularly used sheet music/books, along with the ones in "storage", 
>>> otherwise known as my mom's garage and closet with me around the 
>>> globe.  Thus, the Braille files.  Try conning Rehab into giving you 
>>> an embosser.  And just as a disclaimer, I have yet to rent a closet from
anyone.
>>>
>>> Keeping a database:  Try and keep a database written down of what 
>>> sheet music you do have.  If they're anthologies, keep a copy of the 
>>> table of contents.  It might be good to write down who transcribed 
>>> it and when they did so that you can harass them like I've done to 
>>> Richard plenty of times for various reasons.
>>>
>>> Physical storing: Really try and get those cheap plastic binders 
>>> from APH if you can.  If you can't afford it or whatever, try and 
>>> see if you can get Rehab to get several for you and hoard them.  Did 
>>> I say that?  Also keep them in a file as Dani said.  (I love that 
>>> idea, by the way, Dani, thank you.).  And in that database that has 
>>> all your sheet music, titles, composers, from what anthology and 
>>> what publisher because you'd be surprised with how much that might 
>>> matter, along with who transcribed them and when, write out where 
>>> you've filed them physically.  It takes ridonculous organization, I 
>>> know, and I definitely have to practice what I preech and check 
>>> through some of my inventory to make sure some more music isn't 
>>> broken and bleeding all over the place, but it saves a lot o' tears.  
>>> And if you're someone who does different things like different 
>>> ensembles, solo stuff, etc., write in that database when you 
>>> performed it.  I personally keep solo stuff and ensemble stuff 
>>> separate because it's easiest for me.  Along with that, I keep art 
>>> song and opera arias separate for further organization just because 
>>> ...  I'm cray-cray.  If it's easiest for you to alphabetize, 
>>> chronologise, etc., be my guest and far more power to ya, my friend.
>>> Hope that helps.  Good luck with keeping your house from being eaten 
>>> alive by all them dots.
>>> Cristina
>>>
>>> On 7/14/12, Chris Smart <csmart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> cool. i haven't tried that yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 02:17 PM 7/14/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>There is always ninjam.
>>>>>
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