[Menvi-discuss] Suggestions for expediting assignments.

Mon Feb 20 16:26:16 EST 2012

Matchmaker is from "Fiddler on the Roof,".

Debra

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[mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] On Behalf Of Bettie Downing
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:30 PM
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"Matchmaker" is not the one you're thinking of.  Try Googling the words to
"Matchmaker."

On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

> Hello,
> Thank you! I remember that Fiddler has "Do you love me?" Which talks about
how they've lived 25 years together and they are asking each other if they
love one another.
> I'd like any other suggestions though!
> Thank you,
> 
> Brandon Keith Biggs
> -----Original Message----- From: Debra Baxley
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 2:24 AM
> To: 'This is for discussing music and braille literacy'
> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Suggestions for expediting assignments.
> 
> Ry "Fiddler on the Roof," and "The Sound of Music."
> 
> What about songs, such as, "Matchmaker"?
> 
> Debra
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org
> [mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:45 AM
> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Suggestions for expediting assignments.
> 
> Hello,
> I'm good to even get a theory class at my school! These teachers are 2
> adjunct teachers that are filling the place of the normal teacher who
> usually teaches there. (He took a break to go write an Opera! :()
> The problem with the pieces that he analyzes are that they are pieces he
> thinks of on the spot and pulls out of his guitar case, they are examples
in
> 
> the book or they are pieces he writes in front of the class.
> I will suggest to him that he should reduce the number of pieces to maybe
> one and to play that one in class before we start taking it apart. I will
> also ask that he get our opinions before he takes the piece apart.
> When you say he asked for the form analysis do you mean identifying if it
> was sonata form and where the themes were and whatnot?
> We haven't learned any of that in this class. If we want to learn about
> sonata form or any other structural form we need to take the classical
music
> 
> history classes. I will suggest to him that he please go over that as
well.
> The problem is in the entrance exams at conservatory they don't ask you to
> dissect a piece's form. Also I'm thinking that because there is a majority
> of non musicians in the class the teacher doesn't want to go out of their
> comprehenchen. If he does loos those students they won't sign up and if a
> class doesn't get at least 20 people at the start of a quarter it gets
> canceled. Also the teacher thinks of music in his 50s rock songs which for
> some reason most of the non musicians know... It's a balance between
> pleasing the audience and teaching the material. The second teacher at the
> lab is very good with this...
> In my opinion staying with classical would be fun, composing in class
would
> be great and I totally get the need for understanding the different forms
> music takes, but I'm not sure if all the other students who don't play do.
I
> 
> will suggest the above things to him and see if he will be willing to
apply
> them.
> Any other suggestions or descriptions of another theory class would really
> help!
> Thank you,
> 
> Brandon Keith Biggs
> -----Original Message----- From: Dewald van Deventer
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 12:42 AM
> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Suggestions for expediting assignments.
> 
> Hi.
> Wow, 6 in 2 hours!
> We would have done only one in one hour's lesson, and then we would only
do
> the necessary stuff.
> 
> Maybe you could just listen to the recordings beforetime.
> 
> My professor had a CD player in class, and the first thing we did, was to
> first listen to the piece completely.
> 
> And then he would ask the form annalesis. And then break it apart bit by
> bit.
> 
> The small examples he would then play at the piano.
> 
> So i would say, get really familiar with the corals or whatever you do the
> day, and then sleep in class!
> Just joking.
> But he really sounds, a bit, erm, on his own planet.
> 
> Dewald.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Keith Biggs"
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> To: "This is for discussing music and braille literacy"
> <menvi-discuss at menvi.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Suggestions for expediting assignments.
> 
> 
>> Hello,
>> I'm learning OK, just not all the time. I have a tutor and Bettie is
>> transcribing my assignments. The problems are the 2 hours in class...
>> I suggested to him that instead of analyzing other composers we write
>> something and ask questions that way. The problem is that the other kids
>> seem to be at a loss to figure out what to do. This is not a
conservatory,
> 
>> it is a community college, so my teacher is not the top of the line. He
>> does play the music somewhat, but not in a very descriptive fission. He's
>> one of those teachers who rambles on and doesn't stop till the class is
at
> 
>> the end. I have no idea how he keeps enough energy to ramble for 2 hours
>> strait, but he does. I've been getting an A by just going to class and
>> guessing what all the theory is from the basic instructions are in the
>> assignments, but I feel like I could be learning so much more
>> The music book they are using isn't Brailed and I've had some difficulty
>> trying to get the right book on the computer... They do have modules
>> online that give websites that have all the instructions for the concepts
>> they are teaching though. The online stuff is for the online class, so
>> perhaps I can consider taking just the online class if this teacher
>> doesn't start becoming more creative. We do have two teachers in this
>> class, the lab teacher is really good, her 1 hour lab seems like 5
minutes
> 
>> so if I did the online section I wouldn't want to miss that...
>> I'm just wondering what other teachers do? I'm pretty sure they don't sit
>> at the piano and board going note by note through 6 Bach corrals in one
>> day. I'd say that analyzing a piece is cool, but 6 pieces is a little
much
> 
>> in 2 hours. Just thinking about it makes me cringe. I am getting the
>> feeling that he is starting to get the message that things are really
>> boring, but this is his first year teaching theory, so I think he is just
>> not brimming with ideas to make his class interesting. Composing in class
>> is cool, but what else could he do? He plays guitar pieces and some piano
>> pieces, but he does jump through every kind of music without any kind of
>> restraint... He doesn't get why parallel 5ths were considered bad and he
>> goes from talking Bach to talking beetles in the same sentence. In
>> something like this it is the teacher's job to teach ideals and it is up
>> to the students to break them. This might just be my opinion, but I don't
>> want to be given a very loose etheric set of rules when I'm trying to
>> prepare for conservatory. He said: "My teacher made us rays our hand and
>> promise that 'the seventh must resolve down.' I still don't see why
people
> 
>> thought that way because to me the 7th sounds just fine moving up, but
>> that is what I was taught."
>> I get the idea that music is all in the ears of the beholder, but that
>> doesn't tell me what the classical ear wants.
>> Am I mistaken to expect a second quarter first year theory class to
>> establish firm rules and only go over exceptions later in the second two
>> years? I know Bartok, Bach and Beethoven didn't follow very many rules,
>> but when the teacher goes off and starts to talk about the Blues or Jazz,
>> he's talking about a whole new set of ideas. Jazz is somewhat close, but
>> Blues and rock are two vastly different ideas. A rock song usually has 4
>> chords, but then my teacher will talk about something like Dark Side of
>> the Moon or some other artist that was popular in the 70s...
>> I've only been in theory for one and a half quarters and I haven't been
>> exposed to any other theory teachers.
>> What else could I suggest to accelerate the class for me while still
>> keeping the sighted students happy and while not swamping the teacher
with
> 
>> loads of extra assignments to keep track of.
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Smart
>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:47 AM
>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Suggestions for expediting assignments.
>> 
>> yes, you need to have a serious talk with your teacher! He needs to
>> either give you a copy of his notes you can access before or after
>> class, or adapt his teaching style so he is verbalizing more of
>> what is going on. Also, playing all examples on the piano or
>> similar instrument.
>> 
>> If he doesn't seem receptive to this at all, go to your college's
>> disability services people. If they give you the brush off, go to
>> the Dean of the music department. Go as high as you need to up the
>> chain of command, until someone takes you seriously and is willing
>> to fight for you.
>> 
>> Chris
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