<div>On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 1:30 PM ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss <<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thank you Ella, MuseScore may have XML files, when I want to download<br>
it isn't letting me</blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You need to create an account to download. It’s totally free, just click the “log in” button then “create a free account”</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Marc</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" dir="auto"><br>
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On 6/4/23, Ella Yu via Menvi-discuss <<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org" target="_blank">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Ruby, I'm sure we can locate music for the Preludes and Fugues of Bach.<br>
> I know the whole set is available in several versions on the <a href="http://musescore.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">musescore.com</a><br>
> sharing site, and there are probably several braille versions floating<br>
> around that I'm not aware of. I can't really locate the braille versions of<br>
> anything at the moment. Jeanie and I are planning to go through a bunch of<br>
> braille music brf books and catalogue everything, but until then... here's<br>
> what I can find on MuseScore for the other pieces.<br>
><br>
> Mozart Sonata (several versions)<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/song/piano_sonata_no12_in_f_major_k332300k-84142" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/song/piano_sonata_no12_in_f_major_k332300k-84142</a>><br>
><br>
> Schubert Moment Musicaux<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/user/11239551/scores/6366642" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/user/11239551/scores/6366642</a>> note the title is not<br>
> in English, but press the play button to confirm it's the correct piece.<br>
> Beethoven Sonata in E Major (several versions available)<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/song/piano_sonata_no9_op14_no1-12939?text=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/song/piano_sonata_no9_op14_no1-12939?text=</a>><br>
> Handel, Suite in F Minor<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/user/30015827/scores/6650838" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/user/30015827/scores/6650838</a>><br>
> Marianne Martinez Sonata in A 1st mvt<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/user/39375368/scores/7188777" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/user/39375368/scores/7188777</a>> This is not a common<br>
> piece, so I'm surprised that I was able to find a transcription on<br>
> MuseScore. It is very unlikely this piece is available in braille anywhere<br>
> due to its rarity, so if you want the subsequent movements or an actual<br>
> braille transcription, someone has to do it for you.<br>
> Mozart Sonata in A Minor<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/user/2372401/scores/4990889" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/user/2372401/scores/4990889</a>><br>
> Rameau Les Cyclopes (several versions available)<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/song/rameau_les_cyclopes_from_pieces_de_clavecin-2608787" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/song/rameau_les_cyclopes_from_pieces_de_clavecin-2608787</a>><br>
> Scarlatti Sonata in D <<a href="https://musescore.com/user/34919177/scores/6653892" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/user/34919177/scores/6653892</a>><br>
> Haydn Sonata in D Major <<a href="https://musescore.com/user/4887176/scores/6873976" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/user/4887176/scores/6873976</a>><br>
> Tchaikovsky Barcarolle from The Seasons (several versions available)<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/song/the_seasons_no_6_june_barcarolle-1610790" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/song/the_seasons_no_6_june_barcarolle-1610790</a>><br>
> Arensky Nocturne <<a href="https://musescore.com/user/5923151/scores/6749281" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/user/5923151/scores/6749281</a>><br>
> Chopin Mazukra in A Minor (several versions available)<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/song/mazurkas_op17-26069" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/song/mazurkas_op17-26069</a>><br>
> Janacek In the Mists No1<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/derek_john_benton/in-the-mist-no-1-leos-janacek" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/derek_john_benton/in-the-mist-no-1-leos-janacek</a>><br>
> Rachmaninoff Moment Musical in D flat<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/derek_john_benton/rachmaninoff-moment-musical-no-5-in-db-major" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/derek_john_benton/rachmaninoff-moment-musical-no-5-in-db-major</a>><br>
> Schubert Impromptu in A flat (several versions available)<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/song/4_impromptus_d935-108871" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/song/4_impromptus_d935-108871</a>> I can confirm there<br>
> is an actual braille transcription as an individual file in the ABC<br>
> catalogue, but Jeanie needs to download it for us. I know CNIB transcribed<br>
> the piece since I learned it in the past.<br>
> Scumann Romanze<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/bntt-piano/romance-op-28-no-2-robert-schumann-romance-robert-schumann" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/bntt-piano/romance-op-28-no-2-robert-schumann-romance-robert-schumann</a>><br>
> The Beethoven Pathetique Sonata is incredibly popular. MuseScore<br>
> transcriptions are readily available and I'm sure there's an actual braille<br>
> transcription somewhere, I just can't locate it right now.<br>
> Similarly, the Debussy Arabesques are very popular and I'm sure are readily<br>
> available on MuseScore and in braille somewhere.<br>
> Debussy Reverie (several versions available)<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/song/reverie-446/solo/piano" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/song/reverie-446/solo/piano</a>><br>
> Bartok Dances in Bulgarian Rhythm<br>
> <<a href="https://musescore.com/song/mikrokosmos_sz107-9782/solo/piano" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://musescore.com/song/mikrokosmos_sz107-9782/solo/piano</a>> This links<br>
> to a listing of all pieces in Sz107, but I can confirm that there's<br>
> transcriptions of most of the Bulgarian Dances in there.<br>
><br>
> So as you can see, most of the pieces you listed are available on<br>
> <a href="http://musescore.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">musescore.com</a> and many are probably available in braille somewhere. The<br>
> main ones that will be hard to locate/require specific transcriptions made<br>
> are those by contemporary composers and those by composers that are not<br>
> played often, such as female composers. The quality of those transcriptions<br>
> vary, but since there's several versions to choose from for several of<br>
> the pieces, that does help. MuseScore transcriptions are usually very<br>
> accurate for the most part, so I generally consider them reliable.<br>
> Hope this helps,<br>
> Ella<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 5:10 AM ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss <<br>
> <a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org" target="_blank">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi Jeanie, I coppied from ABRSM website only the names, so, I will<br>
>> paste it here, 1 J. S. Bach Prelude and Fugue in B-, BWV 866 Piano<br>
>> Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 2 Mozart Allegro (1st movt from Sonata in F, K. 332) Piano Exam Pieces<br>
>> 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 3 Schubert Moment musical in C+ minor (No. 4 from<br>
>> Moments musicaux, D. 780)<br>
>> Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 4 J. S. Bach Prelude and Fugue in G, BWV 884 J. S. Bach: The<br>
>> Well-Tempered Clavier, Part 2 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 5 Beethoven Allegro (1st movt from Sonata in E, Op. 14 No. 1)<br>
>> Beethoven: Sonata in E, Op. 14 No. 1 (ABRSM) or<br>
>> Beethoven: The 35 Piano Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM) or<br>
>> Beethoven: Complete Pianoforte Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 6 Handel Prelude and Allegro (Fuga) (1st and 2nd movts<br>
>> from Suite No. 8 in F minor, HWV 433)<br>
>> Handel: Eight Great Suites, Book 2 (ABRSM) or<br>
>> Handel: Keyboard Works, Vol. 1 (Bärenreiter)<br>
>> 7 Martínez Allegro/Moderato (1st movt from Sonata in A) Piano Music by<br>
>> Female Composers (4th revised edition<br>
>> 2011) (Schott) or<br>
>> Core Classics, Grades 7–8 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 8 Mozart Andante grazioso and Vars. 1–6 (1st movt from<br>
>> Sonata in A, K. 331)<br>
>> Mozart: Sonata in A, K. 331 (ABRSM) or<br>
>> Mozart: Sonatas for Pianoforte, Vol. 2 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 9 Rameau Les cyclopes (from Pièces de clavecin) Rameau: Les cyclopes /<br>
>> Les sauvages (Bärenreiter) or<br>
>> Rameau: Pièces de clavecin (Heugel)<br>
>> 10 D. Scarlatti Sonata in D, Kp. 443, L. 418 Pp. 4–7 from D.<br>
>> Scarlatti: Selected Keyboard Sonatas,<br>
>> Book 1 (ABRSM) or<br>
>> D. Scarlatti: 200 Sonatas, Vol. 4 (EMB Zeneműkiadó)<br>
>> 11 Haydn Allegro con brio (1st movt from Sonata in D,<br>
>> Hob. XVI:37)<br>
>> Haydn: Selected Keyboard Sonatas, Book 3 (ABRSM) or<br>
>> Haydn: Complete Piano Sonatas, Vol. 3 (Wiener Urtext)<br>
>> 12 Stephen<br>
>> Hough<br>
>> Toccatina (5th movt from Suite R-B) Stephen Hough: Suite R-B and Other<br>
>> Enigmas<br>
>> (Weinberger)<br>
>> 13 C. Schumann Un poco agitato (No. 2 from Quatre pièces<br>
>> fugitives, Op. 15)<br>
>> C. Schumann: Romantic Piano Music (Vol. 2)<br>
>> (Bärenreiter) or<br>
>> C. Schumann: Quatre pièces fugitives Op. 15<br>
>> (Breitkopf & Härtel)<br>
>> 1 S. ColeridgeTaylor<br>
>> Impromptu in B minor (No. 2 from<br>
>> Two Impromptus)<br>
>> Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 2 Farrenc Étude in D-, Op. 41 No. 5 Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024,<br>
>> Grade 8 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 3 Tchaikovsky Juin: Barcarolle (No. 6 from Les saisons, Op. 37b) Piano<br>
>> Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 4 Arensky Nocturne in D- (No. 3 from 24 Characteristic<br>
>> Pieces, Op. 36)<br>
>> Arensky: 24 Characteristic Pieces, Op. 36 (Prhythm) or<br>
>> Arensky: 24 Morceau characteristiques, Op. 36 (Alfred)<br>
>> 5 Chopin Mazurka in A minor, Op. 17 No. 4 Chopin: Mazurkas (Henle)<br>
>> 6 Ireland Columbine Ireland: The Collected Piano Works, Vol. 4<br>
>> (Stainer & Bell)<br>
>> 7 Janáček Andante (No. 1 from In the Mists) Janáček: In the Mists<br>
>> (Bärenreiter)<br>
>> 8 Rachmaninoff Moment musical in D-, Op. 16 No. 5 Rachmaninoff: Six<br>
>> moments musicaux, Op. 16 (Simrock)<br>
>> 9 Schubert Impromptu in A- (No. 2 from Four Impromptus,<br>
>> Op. 142, D. 935)<br>
>> Schubert: Impromptus, Op. 142 (ABRSM) or<br>
>> Schubert: Impromptus and Moments musicaux (Henle)<br>
>> or Core Classics, Grades 7–8 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 10 Schumann Romanze in F+ (No. 2 from Drei Romanzen,<br>
>> Op. 28)<br>
>> Schumann: Drei Romanzen, Op. 28 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 11 A. Beach A Hermit Thrush at Morn, Op. 92 No. 2 Piano Music of Amy<br>
>> Beach (Hal Leonard) or<br>
>> Amy Beach Piano Music (Dover)<br>
>> A<br>
>> B<br>
>> 38<br>
>> Piano 2023 & 2024 Grade 8 Practical Grades<br>
>> COMPOSER PIECE / WORK / ARRANGER PUBLICATION (PUBLISHER)<br>
>> 12 Beethoven Adagio cantabile (2nd movt from Sonata in<br>
>> C minor ‘Pathétique’, Op. 13)<br>
>> Beethoven: Sonata in C minor, Op. 13 (Pathétique)<br>
>> (ABRSM) or<br>
>> Beethoven: The 35 Piano Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM) or<br>
>> Beethoven: Complete Pianoforte Sonatas, Vol. 1 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 13 Tailleferre Impromptu Tailleferre: Impromptu (Editions Jobert)<br>
>> 1 Albéniz Rumores de La Caleta (Malagueña) (No. 6<br>
>> from Recuerdos de viaje, Op. 71)<br>
>> Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 2 Debussy Arabesque No. 2 (from Deux arabesques, L. 66) Piano Exam<br>
>> Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 3 J. P. Johnson Over the Bars Piano Exam Pieces 2023 & 2024, Grade 8<br>
>> (ABRSM)<br>
>> 4 Chaminade Pierrette (Air de Ballet), Op. 41 Piano Music by Female<br>
>> Composers (4th revised edition<br>
>> 2011) (Schott)<br>
>> 5 Chen Peixun Thunder in Drought Season 100 Years of Chinese Piano<br>
>> Music: Vol. III Works in<br>
>> Traditional Style, Book II Instrumental Music<br>
>> (Shanghai Conservatory of Music Press)<br>
>> 6 Debussy Rêverie Debussy: Rêverie (Editions Jobert) or<br>
>> Night and Dreams (Schott)<br>
>> 7 Khachaturian Toccata Khachaturian: Toccata (Boosey & Hawkes)<br>
>> 8 Uwe Korn Caballos Españoles Tango Meets Jazz (Schott)<br>
>> 9 Cecilia<br>
>> McDowall<br>
>> Vespers in Venice (from Four Piano Solos) Cecilia McDowall: Four Piano<br>
>> Solos (Hunt Edition)<br>
>> 10 Villa-Lobos O polichinelo (from A prole do bebê no.1) Villa-Lobos:<br>
>> O polichinelo (Eschig) or<br>
>> Beyond the Romantic Spirit, Book 2 (Alfred)<br>
>> 11 Bartók Dance in Bulgarian Rhythm No. 6 (No.153 from<br>
>> Mikrokosmos)<br>
>> Bartók: Six Dances in Bulgarian Rhythm (Henle) or<br>
>> Bartók: Mikrokosmos, Vol. 6 (Boosey & Hawkes)<br>
>> 12 Zoe Rahman Go with the Flow Nikki Iles and Friends, Book 2 (ABRSM)<br>
>> 13 Trad. Irish Danny Boy, arr. Iles Jazz in Autumn (OUP)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Thank you with all my heart.<br>
>><br>
>> Ruby.<br>
>><br>
>> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss <<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org" target="_blank">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > Hi Ruby,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Yes please send through the PDF. If you can’t attach it here you can<br>
>> send it<br>
>> > to me at <a href="mailto:jeaniewillis@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeaniewillis@gmail.com</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> >> On 4/06/2023, at 11:00 PM, ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org" target="_blank">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hi Genie, Thank you so much, you are so kind and understanding, I am<br>
>> >> so touched by your message, I really mean it. I would like to attach<br>
>> >> that Grade 8 PDF file to you, if there is option here otherwise, I<br>
>> >> have to send it privately to you.let me see.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Thank you really, appreciate it.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Kind Regards, Ruby.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >>> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss <<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org" target="_blank">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a>><br>
>> >>> wrote:<br>
>> >>> Hi Ruby,<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> If you give me an easy to read list of the pieces for both main<br>
>> syllabus<br>
>> >>> and<br>
>> >>> alternatives in an e-mail I will have a search and see which of them<br>
>> >>> I<br>
>> >>> can<br>
>> >>> find tomorrow. It is getting late here so I am going to get some<br>
>> dinner<br>
>> >>> and<br>
>> >>> go to bed. Usually the ABRSM Grade 8 always has a prelude and fugue<br>
>> for<br>
>> >>> list A and most of those are going to be able to be found. So if<br>
>> >>> your<br>
>> >>> student is willing to do the pieces we can find you music for then I<br>
>> >>> think<br>
>> >>> we have a good chance. So don't stress, just send the list, smile.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Also, you have a much better chance of getting just the three pieces<br>
>> >>> transcribed by either ABRSM or other transcribers. So if we can't<br>
>> >>> find<br>
>> >>> what<br>
>> >>> you need then my suggestion would be listen to the pieces and decide<br>
>> >>> which 3<br>
>> >>> and just ask for those to be transcribed rather than the whole book.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Jeanie<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Jeanie<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> >>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss<br>
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 8:01 PM<br>
>> >>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy<br>
>> >>> <<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org" target="_blank">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a>><br>
>> >>> Cc: ruby alphonse <<a href="mailto:rubyalphonse@gmail.com" target="_blank">rubyalphonse@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Thank you Genie and Ella, yes I agree what genie says that it will be<br>
>> >>> easy<br>
>> >>> if I can have BRF or XML music file, but how to get and where to get<br>
>> >>> is<br>
>> >>> my<br>
>> >>> anxiety, I have written to Bill Mcann dancingdots whether they can<br>
>> >>> transcribe the book of grade 8 ABRSM the latest syllabus<br>
>> >>> 2023-2024 for me, bill hasn't responded, perhaps I will write to<br>
>> >>> Albert<br>
>> >>> today too if he can help me with the transcription. in the website of<br>
>> >>> ABRSM<br>
>> >>> under specific needs and under partially sighted and visually<br>
>> >>> impaired,<br>
>> >>> 2023-2024 syllabus isn't available of course, I did not write to them<br>
>> if<br>
>> >>> they can get the BRF file for grade 8 of this latest syllabus, I'll<br>
>> try<br>
>> >>> that as well today. The student is an adult, a nun from the<br>
>> congrigation<br>
>> >>> Daughters Of Charity, Sister Magdelena She doesn't select on Her own<br>
>> >>> anything but, leans on me too much. I told Her to go to some other<br>
>> >>> teacher,<br>
>> >>> She isn't listening, I tried my best to telling Her lot of obstacles<br>
>> are<br>
>> >>> there, unless I have a copy in Braille, I cannot teach, this She<br>
>> doesn't<br>
>> >>> understand, has no notion of what braille is, or what a blind person<br>
>> does<br>
>> >>> to<br>
>> >>> teach a student, Anyway, I don't know what to do, I am in a bad<br>
>> >>> soop.Besides<br>
>> >>> the melody of these pieces in grade Eight are not so much catchy, I<br>
>> like<br>
>> >>> some of<br>
>> >>> the pieces of the alternative pieces, there is Danny Boy,that is in<br>
>> >>> the list C and there is the second piece in list A How to make Her<br>
>> >>> to buy the alternative pieces I have to find a way. as Genie says,<br>
>> >>> we<br>
>> >>> love<br>
>> >>> to teach music, so, we keep searching for different ways that are<br>
>> >>> accessible<br>
>> >>> for us. I'll let you know which pieces Sister and I choose.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Thank you a lot, I truely appreciate you both for your understanding<br>
>> >>> me<br>
>> >>> and<br>
>> >>> trying your best to support me.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Thank you again.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Ruby.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>>> On 6/4/23, Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss <<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org" target="_blank">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a>><br>
>> >>>> wrote:<br>
>> >>>> Yes I agree, Ruby, let us know what the specific pieces you are<br>
>> >>>> looking for are and we can try to find them.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> I have just been on ABC and downloaded a bunch more repertoire<br>
>> >>>> books.<br>
>> >>>> My plan over time is to catalogue the individual pieces within all<br>
>> >>>> of<br>
>> >>>> these so that when someone needs an individual piece we will know if<br>
>> >>>> it is tucked away in a book.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Unfortunately it doesn’t look like CNIB did a good cataloguing job<br>
>> >>>> of<br>
>> >>>> the RCM materials. There are a lot of books just labelled as RCM<br>
>> >>>> examination with no idea what grade or whether they are even piano,<br>
>> >>>> voice, etc. I will check our local library here in case they did<br>
>> >>>> any<br>
>> >>>> better when they received them from ABC. Otherwise it would be a<br>
>> >>>> case<br>
>> >>>> of downloading them all and opening and reading. I’m still a pretty<br>
>> >>>> slow Braille reader so not feeling very excited about this, but I<br>
>> >>>> might be somewhere quicker with notepad and screen reader, my askii<br>
>> >>>> interpretation is improving, lol.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> But I did notice hundreds of individual pieces of titles I<br>
>> >>>> recognised<br>
>> >>>> as exam pieces on ABC, so will be happy to do a search once we know<br>
>> >>>> those titles.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Jeanie<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of Ella Yu via Menvi-discuss<br>
>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 11:04 AM<br>
>> >>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy<br>
>> >>>> <<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org" target="_blank">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a>><br>
>> >>>> Cc: Ella Yu <<a href="mailto:ellaxyu@gmail.com" target="_blank">ellaxyu@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Hi all, RCM goes up to level 10 and then there's a grad level, just<br>
>> >>>> for reference. Sadly, finding the actual repertoire books in braille<br>
>> >>>> is very difficult, and is made worse by the new CNIB library thing<br>
>> >>>> which seems to have removed a lot of older braille music titles. I<br>
>> >>>> think the best course of action is to figure out which pieces you<br>
>> >>>> need, and we can try to help you source them. Finding braille music<br>
>> >>>> is<br>
>> >>>> very hard a lot of the time, and what is available is very<br>
>> >>>> restrictive. Having optical music recognition helps a lot, but you<br>
>> still<br>
>> >>>> need sighted assistance to get it to work.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 3:38 PM Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss<br>
>> >>>> <<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org" target="_blank">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org" target="_blank">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a>> > wrote:<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Hi Ruby,<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Has your student chosen her pieces yet? Can you tell us what they<br>
>> >>>> are<br>
>> >>>> and we can see if we can find a brf or even xml in another exam book<br>
>> >>>> or sheet music.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Have you contacted ABRSM special needs and asked them for these<br>
>> >>>> specific pieces to be urgently transcribed? Did you get a response?<br>
>> >>>> You could also try contacting the publishers as listed in the print<br>
>> >>>> book directly and see if there is any way they can release the xml<br>
>> >>>> or<br>
>> >>>> similar file to you to convert to Braille. I sometimes find that<br>
>> >>>> making an e-mail a CC to several different departments or people<br>
>> >>>> within an organisation makes it harder for them to all ignore, so<br>
>> >>>> keep<br>
>> >>>> trying.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> I think you should give up trying to find a way to convert the music<br>
>> >>>> from pdf or scanned image as this is just not going to be good<br>
>> >>>> enough<br>
>> >>>> for you as a teacher. Even if you got all the notes, which is<br>
>> >>>> unlikely you will be missing essential articulation, fingering and<br>
>> >>>> many other things. An existing brf or xml will be much closer.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> If we can help you find a brf or xml do you have a way set up to<br>
>> >>>> edit<br>
>> >>>> the Braille? My suggestion is that you could either pay a<br>
>> >>>> transcriber<br>
>> >>>> to compare the brf that isn't the original ABRSM and edit it to add<br>
>> >>>> any small details that are different. This should be much less<br>
>> >>>> expensive than transcribing from scratch. Or, you could go through<br>
>> >>>> with your student either a few bars at a time or through a topic<br>
>> >>>> such<br>
>> >>>> as all the dynamics in a piece, or the pedal marks, or the<br>
>> >>>> articulation and get them to read out what it does so you can check<br>
>> >>>> and edit them. This is a little time consuming, but also might help<br>
>> >>>> your student to become much more familiar with the pieces.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> The only other option is to pay to have them transcribed if you can.<br>
>> >>>> I do understand how frustrating this all is. I have been very<br>
>> >>>> frustrated myself this past year with just how little is available<br>
>> >>>> and<br>
>> >>>> I think over time it is easy to become desensitised to the<br>
>> >>>> hugegaping<br>
>> >>>> cavern between what is available to a teacher in print and what in<br>
>> >>>> Braille which is so crazily restrictive. It is also impossible to<br>
>> >>>> even add up all the extra hours spent to get to the same starting<br>
>> >>>> point of having the music ready to begin teaching. But, I guess we<br>
>> >>>> love what we do and so somehow we find a way!<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> If someone can tell me whether the RCM exams are the same Grade<br>
>> >>>> level<br>
>> >>>> I can download the past ones from ABC and check through those also.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Jeanie<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> >>>> From: Menvi-discuss On Behalf Of ruby alphonse via Menvi-discuss<br>
>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 6:24 AM<br>
>> >>>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy<br>
>> >>>> <<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org" target="_blank">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org" target="_blank">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a>> ><br>
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>> >>>> Subject: [Menvi-discuss] Grade 8 exam pieces<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Hello list members, please can anyone tell me where to get braille<br>
>> >>>> transcribed I need very urgently grade 8 2023-2024 syllabus a<br>
>> >>>> braille<br>
>> >>>> copy to teach a student, there isn't BRF file available on the<br>
>> >>>> website<br>
>> >>>> of ABRSM specific needs. This student wants to prepare from now on<br>
>> >>>> to<br>
>> >>>> do the exams next year, so I cannot use the previous syllabus, so<br>
>> >>>> please anyone knows where I can get hard copy of this Grade 8 ABRSM<br>
>> >>>> 2023-2024 syllabus. or BRF file, I can get them embossed here. Any<br>
>> >>>> help is appreciated deeply.<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Thank you all in advance,<br>
>> >>>><br>
>> >>>> Ruby.<br>
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