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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Jeani,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you. I’ll contact them and see if they can do anything for me. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I had also talked with an advisor in my USA NLs music section. I spoke with a very nice young man who seemed knowledgeable, but when I asked about trying to get a copy from RNIB the response was negative and right now I forget what I was told. I mean what is the good of something like the Marakesh treaty if it doesn’t help people its intended to assist in getting materials in braille.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Eileen<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Menvi-discuss <menvi-discuss-bounces@menvi.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 11, 2022 7:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'This is for discussing music and braille literacy' <menvi-discuss@menvi.org><br><b>Cc:</b> Jeanie Willis <jeaniewillis@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Menvi-discuss] Accessible Books Consortium<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'>Hi Eileen,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'>I’m not clear what the policy is currently with RNIB, but this is what I’ve experienced in the last few weeks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'>I did a big search through all their catalogue and after getting little response previously from the library e-mail address I e-mailed the RNIB Music Advisory Service. You can contact them at <a href="mailto:mas@rnib.org.uk">mas@rnib.org.uk</a>. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'>They told me they are currently shifting all their catalogue to digital and I think when they say they will not be doing sales any more or shipping they are referring to hard copy Braille because they then said they could e-mail me the files I wanted to view digitally or if I got my own Blind Foundation Library to get in touch with them they could send them the files to emboss. I have no idea if this is standard policy or that individual was just being really nice!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'>I also had another one of their staff previously say to ignore whether it says available or not or anything about purchase on the catalogue file. I don’t know if some of these catalogue numbers refer to older books that have never been digitized as I guess those might then not be available.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'>But give the Music Advisory Service an e-mail and plead your case and hopefully they will just e-mail you the files.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'>Jeanie<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Menvi-discuss <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eileen Scrivani via Menvi-discuss<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 12 September 2022 5:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'This is for discussing music and braille literacy' <<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:etscrivani@verizon.net">etscrivani@verizon.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Menvi-discuss] Accessible Books Consortium<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regarding borrowing from libraries other than your own country –<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Last May/June I needed a copy of the first movement of Vivaldi’s Spring for violin. RNIB has it. I wrote them and was told there system was being updated and they would get back to me as soon as it was done and my information had been put in. Well a month or two went by and I wrote them again pretty much getting the same type of reply. I still want the music, but in the meantime I got a strange email saying they could no longer ship or sell To the USA. So how on earth does the Marekesh work and how can I get a copy of the music. I’m willing to buy it. I find their web site very frustrating to use and to try and locate braille music.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Eileen<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Menvi-discuss <<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces@menvi.org">menvi-discuss-bounces@menvi.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeanie Willis via Menvi-discuss<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 10, 2022 4:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'This is for discussing music and braille literacy' <<a href="mailto:menvi-discuss@menvi.org">menvi-discuss@menvi.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:braille-music-chat@googlegroups.com">braille-music-chat@googlegroups.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Jeanie Willis <<a href="mailto:jeaniewillis@gmail.com">jeaniewillis@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Menvi-discuss] Accessible Books Consortium<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'>Not sure if everyone is aware that under the Marrakesh treaty Braille books can now freely be shared via the Accessible Books Consortium (ABC).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'>I think I last heard there are 23 member countries whose blind foundations are now sharing with each other and this recently includes the entire NLS Bard catalogue & CNIB, plus smaller collections like ours in NZ. If your country isn’t involved this is something you might want to push for. And if you are having things transcribed in a member country making sure the local blind foundation library catalogues, adds and shares these.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'>But what nobody seemed to know until mentioned a few months ago on an NZ blind chat list by Martine Able is that there is a supplementary members catalogue where individuals can sign in and download directly from. To do this you do have to be a member of the library of a blind foundation who is one of the 17 that have joined this supplementary catalogue and there is a list on the website of those that have. You fill in the online registration and then they check with your library to approve you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.abcglobalbooks.org/">www.abcglobalbooks.org/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'>I have had some titles that haven’t shown up in the members supplementary catalogue that then my library has still been able to access via their ABC log-in to the main catalogue. So it isn’t a perfect system. RNIB as far as I know have not joined and some members like Vision Australia have not subscribed to the supplementary catalogue system so can only access ABC via their own library service and not directly. But anyone can search the catalogue without logging in, so it still might be a help.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'>Jeanie<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>