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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would love the hymns, as well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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menvi-discuss-bounces@menvi.org [mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces@menvi.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Data<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 09, 2012 11:18
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> This is for discussing music
and braille literacy<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Menvi-discuss] SATB
Writing?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>And, oh yes. Almost always work back from
the cadence. It's cool how the phrases work themselves out from the outside in.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Brandon, I have a bunch of hymns in
braille if you'd like to have them.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>-Andy</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> menvi-discuss-bounces@menvi.org
[mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces@menvi.org]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Dale Lieser<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 09, 2012 9:39
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'This is for discussing music
and braille literacy'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Menvi-discuss] SATB
Writing?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Along with what you
are saying, Andy, working backwards is often helpful, even when doing so from a
cadence. If your cadence is constructed well, the path to it becomes
straighter. So, as you are working with proper, choral voice leading, Brandon,
you will want to get to the place where your writing does actually have a bit
of a cliché sound to it. Remember, Bach and the like did not have the rules;
they wrote according to what sounded right to them, and our rules are merely
snapshots of their practices. And, as Stephanie advises, so was I planning to
suggest, make your way through common hymns and Bach chorales, studying the
succession of intervals, approach to cadences, etc. Rather than thinking of
rules of good part writing as hindrances, learn to abide by them as trustworthy
guidelines. All this while secretly keeping a file of how you intend to break
these rules on graduation day! <smile><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Dale<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
menvi-discuss-bounces@menvi.org [mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces@menvi.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Data<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 09, 2012 11:20
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> This is for discussing music
and braille literacy<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Menvi-discuss] SATB
Writing?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Actually, Lennon and
McCartney were naturally adept at proper part writing and voice
leading, and yes they broke a lot of rules just like Bach. But, as Dale said,
rules were meant to be broken but only after you've mastered them. Generally,
my first two semesters of theory were spent doing part-writing. It's so
essential, I don't think I'd be able to compose at the level (and speed) I
do without a solid foundation in part-writing and orchestration. It trains the
mind and the ear.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Also, don't be so hard on your instructor
(but, please send me a recording of a lecture--I'm
curious). The range for a physically normal tenor in chest voice is
from about C3 to G4. Anything lower or higher is "uncharacteristic"
for the voice and should only be used rarely. You've also got to watch the
tessitura, which shouldn't stay really high or low for very long, damaging the
voice. Remember, you're learning rules now. Don't break them until you've
learned them all. Stay within the normal ranges of the voices. Yes there
are counter tenors (and bargain counter tenors) who can sing up in
stratosphere; but you're learning how to write for normal human beings, not
freaks of nature like Steve Perry and Freddie Mercury. I'm a baritone who can
sing from A1 to A4 and above in falsetto, but I don't like to. haha.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>However, your teacher should discourage
parallel 4th and 5th and 8ve writing at this stage. Some of the problems with
this kind of part-writing is just the sound, but a lot of it is the voicing
difficulties that arise from a misused parallel interval. These rules were not
derived to strangle the creative process, but rather to keep you from getting
into trouble you can't get out of. Remember, if you hear something you don't
like, trace the problem backwards. It's usually not the chord your looking at,
but a chord that happened before it that's causing the problem.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Let's keep the discussion going. Lots of
helpful things are coming out of this.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Sincerely, </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Andy English</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>P.S. Here's a fun thing to do. Play the
karaoke track for "Yesterday" but don't sing it. Instead, read it
poetically, nostalgically, like an octogenarian might. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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