[Menvi-discuss] lesson questions

Chris Smart csmart8 at cogeco.ca
Tue Feb 12 02:54:33 UTC 2013 

No, you would learn about the industry side of things by going to a 
college that offered a program whose focus is on the music 
business. I'm asuming by "industry" that you are talking about the 
business part of music business. if you are instead talking about 
recording studios and associated technology then yes, you'd go to a 
college with a program focused on music technology, recording audio 
engineering etc.

Or, just start reading absolutely every book you can find on 
whatever aspect of the industry you are pursuing, although this 
won't give you credencials on paper, or force you to meed course 
deadlines, or motivate you. Self-study is hard, unless you are 
extremely driven and motivated.


At 09:35 PM 2/11/2013, you wrote:
>after looking into hadly, i see it has a music braille reading corse.
>  that's fine but can they also teach the industry side of things?
>  if i was going to get an education i wouldn't want it to just be 
> braille music
>Timothy
>  Your friend in the music industry
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>On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Timothy Clark Music wrote:
>
>>i'm a bard memeber.
>>  is hadly free?
>>Timothy
>>  Your friend in the music industry
>> 
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>>On Feb 11, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Kaiti Shelton wrote:
>>
>>>Timothy,
>>>
>>>Most music is actually free.  NLS has hard copies of braille 
>>>music as
>>>well as the bard service with downloadable brf files.  Once you
>>>register you can borrow from the library or download as many 
>>>files as
>>>you like.
>>>
>>>On 2/11/13, Dani L Pagador 
>>><<mailto:axs.brl at gmail.com>axs.brl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>Kaiti:
>>>>Your thoughts are concise and well-written; I'm right there 
>>>>with ya. The
>>>>pun
>>>>might not have been intended, but it'll have me smiling all 
>>>>afternoon.
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Dani
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Menvi-discuss [mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] On 
>>>>Behalf Of
>>>>Kaiti Shelton
>>>>Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 1:02 PM
>>>>To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>>>>Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] lesson questions
>>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>Dani:  Thanks for the number.  I'll definitely look into it.
>>>>
>>>>Chris: Interestingly enough, the course says classical guitar 
>>>>lessons, but
>>>>right now I'm mainly working on Blues and pop stuff but playing 
>>>>with the
>>>>classical style.  I'm not performance, so the goal for guitar 
>>>>is to build
>>>>up
>>>>rep and get basic techniques down so that when I learn rep on 
>>>>my own in the
>>>>future I'll have the fascility to be able to teach 
>>>>myself.  Right now I'm
>>>>improvising with the pentatonic scale and working on improving 
>>>>my barring.
>>>>My teacher is also having me learn two songs at a time, one 
>>>>that I could
>>>>play with older adults and one I could play with adolescents 
>>>>and young
>>>>adults.  (Jimmy Buffet and Mumford and Sons are about as 
>>>>different as you
>>>>can get).  He's taking an interesting approach too; since I'm a 
>>>>music
>>>>therapy major when he asks me to learn a song he wants the 
>>>>whole package
>>>>with vocals and everything.  I'm also allowed to take some 
>>>>liberties with
>>>>the accompaniments, although he sees the importance of knowing 
>>>>how to read
>>>>music, braille or print and thinks that learning how to read so 
>>>>that I can
>>>>follow written notation is crutial too.
>>>>
>>>>I don't discount ear training; I use it more than braille 
>>>>because my
>>>>schedule doesn't easily allow for extended hours of time just 
>>>>going over
>>>>braille music.  I just meant that braille music shouldn't be 
>>>>discounted
>>>>because it does open up all sorts of doors for people.  I 
>>>>relied on my ear
>>>>alone for years.  I took piano lessons, violin lessons, sang in 
>>>>choirs,
>>>>played in bands, and took the first few years of my clarinet 
>>>>lessons
>>>>without
>>>>feeling a dot.  But once I started playing high school-level 
>>>>music some
>>>>parts were really tricky for me to pick up by ear even when 
>>>>they were
>>>>recorded and I could play them over and over because they were 
>>>>so fast.  I
>>>>had to teach myself a lot of the braille music code and 
>>>>supplement that
>>>>personal training with instruction from summer programs.  It 
>>>>was only after
>>>>I intigrated Braille Music into my music study that I was able 
>>>>to learn
>>>>some
>>>>of the more difficult pieces and participate in things like 
>>>>honor bands.
>>>>Heck, I wouldn't have been able to pass my college audition if 
>>>>I wasn't
>>>>able
>>>>to read braille music and getting a decent grade in my theory 
>>>>and aural
>>>>skills classes would be out of the question.  It really is 
>>>>about music
>>>>literacy.  Every sighted student who has an interest in music 
>>>>learns how to
>>>>read it and it is the thing that helps them learn and grow as a 
>>>>musician.
>>>>It's a great tool to have to supplement your listening.  I 
>>>>think of braille
>>>>music literacy like this; for me walking into a band class 
>>>>without braille
>>>>music feels like walking into a math class without knowing 
>>>>Nemeth, or going
>>>>to a chemistry class without knowing the Chem code.  Listening 
>>>>alone and
>>>>following the teacher's lecture may work for some, but for a 
>>>>lot of people
>>>>flying blind without the braille to keep you on track seems 
>>>>crazy to think
>>>>about because it is such a helpful tool... by the way, the punn 
>>>>was not
>>>>intended.  :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 2/11/13, Chris Smart 
>>>><<mailto:csmart8 at cogeco.ca>csmart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>>>>that's great to know!
>>>>>It really is an excellent book.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>At 05:22 PM 2/11/2013, you wrote:
>>>>>>Hi, Chris and Kaiti.
>>>>>>The number listed at BARD is BRM 35691. It's downloadable as 
>>>>>>a .zip of
>>>>>>the braille copy.
>>>>>>HTH,
>>>>>>Dani
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Menvi-discuss [mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] 
>>>>>>On Behalf
>>>>>>Of Chris Smart
>>>>>>Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 12:06 PM
>>>>>>To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] lesson questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Kaiti.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well put regarding Timothy's post. You are more diplomatic 
>>>>>>and tactful
>>>>>>than I. *grin*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Since you are learning classical guitar, you will want to 
>>>>>>track down a
>>>>>>copy of "Pumping Nylon: The Classical Guitarist's Technique 
>>>>>>Book", by
>>>>>>Scott Tenant.  It has excellent sections on positioning the 
>>>>>>guitar,
>>>>>>left-hand positioning and exercises, right hand positioning 
>>>>>>and the
>>>>>>various finger strokes, nail care, an excellent group of 120 
>>>>>>arpeggio
>>>>>>exercises for the right-hand, some flamenco techniques, and some
>>>>>>challenging repertoire. it's mostly great for the simple and 
>>>>>>effective
>>>>>>left and right-hand exercises though.
>>>>>>I play mostly rock and jazz, and I learned many valuable 
>>>>>>things, even
>>>>>>though I'm not much of a classical player. Unlike many books, 
>>>>>>this one
>>>>>>really delivers all that it promises. Highly recommended!
>>>>>>Scott has also produced supplemental repertoire books to go 
>>>>>>with it,
>>>>>>and a video DVD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Pumping Nylon" was transcribed in three volumes of Braille 
>>>>>>by the
>>>>>>National Braille ASsociation, and they were selling it for 
>>>>>>less than
>>>>>>cost.
>>>>>>Apparently the National Braille ASsociation's catalog was 
>>>>>>purchased by
>>>>>>someone else, and they may have this book available, or it may be
>>>>>>available through NLS. Can someone track it down? I'm 
>>>>>>assuming Kati is
>>>>>>in the USA - I'm in Canada so don't have access to as many of 
>>>>>>these
>>>>>>services.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I just did a google search and RNIB in the UK have both the 
>>>>>>technique
>>>>>>book and the repertoire supplement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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