[Menvi-discuss] question about hearing part in choir

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On 2/1/2013 12:15 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
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> Except there are no documented cases of people acquiring perfect pitch 
> through courses like this. You can develop a very high level of 
> relative ptich ability through lots of ear training though which is 
> just as, if not more useful.
>
> There are lots of people who have perfect pitch but who haven't 
> learned yet the names of the notes, chords, intervals and other 
> musical phenomena. But I challenge anyone to find someone who doesn't 
> have this latent ability already, and get them to develop absolute 
> pitch through training.
>
>
> At 03:04 PM 2/1/2013, you wrote:
>> What is Perfect Pitch?
>>
>> Somewhere deep inside, you have a refined hearing sense popularly 
>> called Perfect Pitch (also known as Absolute Pitch).
>> Perfect Pitch is a talent of yours that's crying to be let out. But  
>> like most musicians  you may have never taken the time to discover it.
>> Simply put, Perfect Pitch is your natural, but usually undeveloped 
>> ability to:
>> •Name exact notes and chords  BY EAR
>> •Sing exact notes  from memory
>> •Identify keys of songs just by listening
>> It's like this . . .
>>
>> WITHOUT Perfect Pitch
>> You do not know what tones you hear
>>  it's like hearing in "black and white":
>> WITHOUT Perfect Pitch, you hear only that the tones are "high" or 
>> "low." Other than this, you don't really experience anything unique 
>> about each pitch. They all sound pretty much the same. And that's why 
>> you can't tell a C-sharp from an F-sharp  just by listening.
>>
>>
>> WITH Perfect Pitch
>> You know the EXACT TONES you hear
>>  it's like hearing in color:
>> WITH Perfect Pitch, your ear becomes sensitive to a deeper quality of 
>> pitch that David Lucas Burge calls "pitch color." Now you can hear 
>> that a C-sharp sounds completely different from an F-sharp. This new 
>> perception lets you name EXACT PITCHES  just by listening.
>> Note: You do not have to associate the above visual colors to tones 
>> in order to learn Perfect Pitch. These visual colors are for 
>> illustration purposes only. Instead, you will actually learn to hear 
>> the PITCH color (sound color) of each tone.
>> Does "pitch color" sound like a strange concept to you?
>> Think of it this way:
>> Your eye sees VISUAL colors; likewise, your ear can learn to hear 
>> PITCH colors.
>> Your eye can recognize different colors of LIGHT (light waves)  
>> right? Likewise, your ear has a natural (but usually undeveloped) 
>> ability to recognize different colors of SOUND (pitches).
>> Once you tune in to these PITCH COLORS, you'll naturally learn to 
>> name any tone or chord  BY EAR  just like you can name colors by eye.
>> If all this still sounds a bit abstract, don't worry. It's so simple 
>> a child can do it. (And if you have musical kids, you'll want them to 
>> learn Perfect Pitch as young as possible.)
>> Regardless of your age, instrument, or currently ability level, 
>> you'll hear it for YOURSELF . . . starting with your very first 
>> Lesson. We guarantee it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Perfect Pitch gives your ears the brand new experience of "pitch 
>> color"  the secret that allows you to know any note or chord BY EAR.
>> The Phenomenon
>> Known over centuries as the prized "super ear" of the world's 
>> greatest musicians, Perfect Pitch gives you an unmatchable mastery of 
>> the musical language.
>> In classical times, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin  and most all 
>> the music greats  had Perfect Pitch.
>> From classical to rock, from jazz to pop, many current and recent 
>> superstars also possess (or did possess) Perfect Pitch:
>> Frank Sinatra, Leonard Bernstein, Barbra Streisand, Julie Andrews, 
>> Andre Previn, Stevie Wonder, Nat King Cole, Ray Charles, Miles Davis, 
>> Ella Fitzgerald, Glenn Gould, Yngwie Malmsteen, Eric Johnson, Tommy 
>> Mars, Bela Bartok, Jascha Heifetz, Paul Shaffer, Yo-Yo Ma, Yanni . . 
>> . the list goes on and on.
>> Climbing the Ladder of Musical Success
>> Although many highly paid artists do not have Perfect Pitch, it is 
>> interesting to note that the further you climb up the music ladder, 
>> the more commonplace the ability becomes.
>> At the Julliard School of Music you'll find about 10% of the students 
>> with Perfect Pitch.
>> A typical symphony orchestra will boast 20-40% of its membership with 
>> Perfect Pitch.
>> And surveys indicate that half of today's most popular recording 
>> artists have Perfect Pitch, rising to 87% for top concert performers.
>> The Golden Rule of Music:
>> Professionals rate a good sense of pitch as the most valuable asset 
>> of musicianship  higher even than other factors like good rhythm, 
>> technical facility, accurate memory, and creativity.
>> Even with years of music lessons and the finest instrument, the 
>> Golden Rule of Music holds true:
>> Your success and enjoyment depend most on your ability to HEAR.
>> Yet all through the centuries, few have ever cracked the secret for 
>> gaining Perfect Pitch...that is, until 14-year old David Lucas Burge 
>> made it his personal quest to find the answer at Springer Junior High 
>> School...
>> What is Relative Pitch?
>> Relative Pitch is your clear understanding of the musical language.
>> It's pretty simple, yet it's an extremely important development for 
>> your overall musical experience.
>> Here's how Relative Pitch works:
>>
>> Relative Pitch Intervals
>>
>> When you play any two tones, a RELATIONSHIP occurs between them  
>> you'll hear it as a simple sound pattern, or INTERVAL:
>> There are 21 basic Relative Pitch Intervals in music, each with its 
>> own name and distinct sound.
>> As you learn Relative Pitch Intervals BY EAR, you are not required to 
>> read any music.
>>
>>
>> Q. Why do I need to learn the sounds of Relative Pitch Intervals  BY 
>> EAR?
>>
>> Relative Pitch Intervals are the
>> Building Blocks of All Music
>>
>> If you want a great ear for music, it's absolutely essential to be 
>> able to recognize all Relative Pitch Intervals  BY EAR.
>> Relative Pitch Intervals are the RAW BUILDING BLOCKS of all MELODIES:
>> Relative Pitch Intervals are also the building blocks of ALL CHORDS:
>> In fact, Relative Pitch Intervals are actually the building blocks of 
>> ALL MUSIC:
>> Relative Pitch Intervals BY EAR  this is your starting point for 
>> your Relative Pitch ear training experience.
>> Next you will learn how to use Relative Pitch Intervals to compose 
>> every possible kind of CHORD  while at the same time you'll hear how 
>> to RECOGNIZE all these chords BY EAR at Lightning Speed . . .
>> Plus you'll learn countless other essentials  like cadences, 
>> inversions, compound intervals, scales, etc.  all to build up your 
>> virtuoso ear for music.
>>
>> Q. Why do I need Relative Pitch in order to have a great ear for music?
>>
>> Only Relative Pitch Gives You a
>> Sharply Focused Picture of the Music
>>
>> Think of it this way:
>> Without Relative Pitch, music can seem like a jumble of hazy tones 
>> and chords  like watching a fuzzy TV screen:
>>
>> Your experience of music
>> WITHOUT Relative Pitch:
>> With a poorly tuned ear, you receive only a blurred impression of the 
>> music; the details are lost. Though you can certainly enjoy the music 
>> to a greater or lesser degree, you don't really understand what's 
>> going on.
>> On the other hand, Relative Pitch gives you the CLEAR musical picture 
>> . . .
>>
>> Your experience of music
>> WITH Relative Pitch:
>> With Relative Pitch, your hearing becomes laser-sharp.
>> Relative Pitch enables your ear to FOCUS the tones  so you enjoy the 
>> crisp detail of what's happening. Now you can comprehend the music 
>> from a whole new, clear perspective.
>> Example: Relative Pitch allows you to NAME any KIND of chord you hear 
>>  instantly  like a Dominant Seventh Sharp Five.
>> It's only when you can UNDERSTAND the musical sounds you hear that 
>> you can truly begin to appreciate the entire musical language.
>> With Relative Pitch, you'll also COMMUNICATE your ideas to another 
>> musician who has Relative Pitch.
>> Example: Whenever you mention a Dominant Seventh Sharp Five chord, 
>> someone with Relative Pitch will know exactly what sound you are 
>> talking about.
>> This is your ability to SPEAK the language of music, similar to 
>> learning words in any language like English, Spanish, French or German.
>> Learn the Language of Music  BY EAR
>> The language of music is PITCH.
>> Just as a child first begins to learn his or her native language BY 
>> EAR, every musician must learn the language of music  pitch  BY EAR.
>> Your EAR is the key to all your talents.
>> Why? Because music is a HEARING art.
>> The more FLUENTLY you master the language of music  BY EAR  the 
>> more your talents will unfold from within you.
>> Relative Pitch is your PERSONAL COMMAND of the musical language  
>> your ability to understand what is happening INSIDE the music, 
>> including all the various chords, progressions, and pitch 
>> relationships that create the musical flow.
>> Relative Pitch gives you a skillful knowledge about music which 
>> naturally enlivens the artistic intelligence within you.
>> The better you can hear, the more easily you are able to:
>> •Play by ear and improvise
>> •Write what you hear
>> •Sing with perfect intonation
>> •Compose artfully
>> •Transpose freely
>> •Perform with confidence
>> •Tune with precision
>> •Memorize easily
>> •Deepen your sense of music appreciation
>> It's a fact: A simple Relative Pitch tune-up empowers all your 
>> talents to rise to their higher potential.
>> Perfect Pitch vs. Relative Pitch
>>
>>
>>
>> Q. Why do I need Relative Pitch when I can have Perfect Pitch?
>> Musicians often think that Perfect Pitch is supremely superior to 
>> Relative Pitch. It's true in some ways, but it's like comparing 
>> apples with oranges.
>> The truth is, Perfect Pitch and Relative Pitch are completely 
>> separate hearing skills, each with its own unique powers and abilities.
>> Perfect Pitch and Relative Pitch are complementary. They do their 
>> jobs best when they work TOGETHER like the two hemispheres of your 
>> brain.
>> Relative Pitch gives you an intellectual (left brain) UNDERSTANDING 
>> of what you hear, whereas Perfect Pitch gives you the artistic (right 
>> brain) PERCEPTION of what David Lucas Burge calls "pitch color."
>>
>> Let's compare the experiences of Perfect Pitch and Relative Pitch:
>>
>>
>> Perfect Pitch and Relative Pitch work together like the artistic 
>> (right) and logical (left) hemispheres of your brain to give you the 
>> complete musical picture.
>> Without Perfect Pitch
>> or Relative Pitch:
>> With a completely untrained ear, there is little or no insight into 
>> what you hear.
>> Basically: zero comprehension.
>> Of course, everyone can ENJOY music without any training whatsoever. 
>> But an untrained ear doesn't give you any UNDERSTANDING of the music.
>> Simply put, without Perfect Pitch or Relative Pitch, you literally 
>> have no pitch recognition.
>> Since music is a HEARING ART, a great ear gives you a natural command 
>> of the musical language. A "great ear" means: an ear that understands 
>> PITCH.
>> When you do not know the notes and chords that you hear, the music 
>> literally passes you by, not fully heard:
>> Bottom line: An untrained ear leaves you with unanswered questions 
>> about everything you hear. All details of the music are lost.
>>
>>
>>
>> Without Perfect Pitch or Relative Pitch, your understanding of music 
>> is bleak and blurred.
>> You now hear the music with a clear, sharp focus.
>> Your sense of Relative Pitch tells you how pitches RELATE to one 
>> another to create the language of music.
>> Now you truly hear what is going on in the music.
>> Example: With Relative Pitch, you can NAME any kind of chord  
>> instantly  BY EAR:
>> In fact, Relative Pitch gives you the complete language of intervals 
>> and chords, all at your fingertips  essential when you compose or 
>> play by ear.
>> When you understand the language of music fluently, you can 
>> creatively choose how to harmonize a melody and how you want your 
>> harmonies to progress to create a musical flow.
>> And when you can FOLLOW THE FLOW OF MUSIC by ear, you can naturally 
>> improvise and play by ear to an impressive degree.
>> To put it all very simply:
>> Relative Pitch gives you mastery of the musical language  all BY EAR.
>> With Relative Pitch, you hear music with a fully clear and sharp focus.
>> Relative Pitch:
>> Does it give you the complete musical picture?
>> Relative Pitch confers countless talents and skills on you because 
>> you can hear with crystal clarity and focus. In fact, many musicians 
>> believe that Relative Pitch is all they need in order to be a great 
>> musician. And for many people, this is probably true.
>> But Relative Pitch lacks a certain aesthetic experience. It lacks the 
>> artistic experience of pitch COLOR . . .
>>
>> Do you hear in color, or "black and white"?
>> What do we mean by "pitch color"?
>> Well, even with the full clarity of Relative Pitch, you are still 
>> hearing all the tones as "black and white." In other words, they all 
>> sound basically the same. The only real difference is that some tones 
>> sound "higher" and some sound "lower."
>> Relative Pitch cannot tell you when you hear a C#. Nor can Relative 
>> Pitch tell the difference between a D Major 7 chord and an F Major 7 
>> chord.
>> What Relative Pitch DOES tell you is that the chord (as in above 
>> example) is a Major 7 chord.
>> Something more is needed in your experience to know the EXACT tones 
>> you are hearing.
>> Perfect Pitch give you the perception of an ARTIST. It endows you 
>> with the rich COLOR of every pitch you hear.
>> When you hear a C#, you know it's a C#, and not a Bb  similar to the 
>> way you can tell red from blue.
>> This experience revolutionizes your abilities in music, because now 
>> you know the EXACT TONES you are hearing. This opens up countless 
>> talents and possibilities to any musician.
>> However, contrary to popular ideas about Perfect Pitch, Perfect Pitch 
>> ALONE does not give you the full details of the music.
>> Without the clarity of Relative Pitch, your experience of music may 
>> not be fully focused.
>> To gain the full details of what is going on in the music, another 
>> dimension of hearing is needed. This is the dimension of Relative 
>> Pitch . . .
>> You and your ear.
>> It's the start of a very
>> beautiful relationship.
>> Perfect Pitch give you the perception of an ARTIST. It endows you 
>> with the rich COLOR of every pitch you hear.
>> When you hear a C#, you know it's a C#, and not a Bb  similar to the 
>> way you can tell red from blue.
>> This experience revolutionizes your abilities in music, because now 
>> you know the EXACT TONES you are hearing. This opens up countless 
>> talents and possibilities to any musician.
>> However, contrary to popular ideas about Perfect Pitch, Perfect Pitch 
>> ALONE does not give you the full details of the music.
>> Without the clarity of Relative Pitch, your experience of music may 
>> not be fully focused.
>> To gain the full details of what is going on in the music, another 
>> dimension of hearing is needed. This is the dimension of Relative 
>> Pitch . . .
>> Music gains a colorful artistry that lets you distinguish EXACT 
>> PITCHES  by ear  similar to how you can name colors by eye. This 
>> finer perception revolutionizes your hearing skills and opens up a 
>> whole new range of artistic musical possibilities for you.
>> Now . . . here's how Perfect Pitch and Relative Pitch work TOGETHER:
>> Relative Pitch tells you, for example, that you hear a Major Seventh 
>> chord.
>> But now the question is: WHICH Major Seventh is it? Are you hearing E 
>> Major Seventh? G Major Seventh? Or maybe . . . F# Major Seventh?
>> This is where your Perfect Pitch comes into play. Perfect Pitch tells 
>> you the EXACT TONES, so you can pinpoint the ROOT of the chord you 
>> are hearing.
>> In the example below, the root of the chord is D, so now you know 
>> that the chord is D Major Seventh:
>> Now you hear the COMPLETE musical picture  in color and sharply 
>> focused. You gain 4X the power and abilities of either skill when 
>> compared separately.
>>
>>
>> Working together in many ways, Perfect Pitch and Relative Pitch give 
>> you complete knowledge of the notes, chords, melodies, harmonies, and 
>> progressions that create all music.
>> And you get this all BY EAR.Q. Yes, but doesn't Perfect Pitch also 
>> tell me the KIND of chord I'm hearing?
>> No. Perfect Pitch tells you the EXACT TONES. It is your sense of 
>> Relative Pitch that lets you understand how tones RELATE to each 
>> other to form chords.
>> Let's compare a spoken language (like English) to the language of music:
>> In English, LETTERS of the alphabet are used to make WORDS. Each word 
>> has its own meaning. These words are then strung into SENTENCES that 
>> give you a further meaning.
>> It's similar in music . . .
>> Individual PITCHES of the chromatic (colored) scale are used to make 
>> CHORDS. Each chord has its own particular sound. Chords are then 
>> strung into musical PROGRESSIONS that create a musical statement.
>> Perfect Pitch tells you the EXACT PITCHES you hear (like knowing the 
>> "letters" of the musical alphabet). But individual letters do not 
>> make a language. And individual pitches by themselves do not create 
>> music.
>> Only Relative Pitch lets you understand how all the tones are 
>> arranged to create the actual LANGUAGE of music.
>> Does this make sense now?
>>
>>
>>
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>> --On 2/1/2013 11:06 AM, Timothy Clark Music wrote:
>>> perfect pitch means you can tell the difference between notes and 
>>> you can hit them perfectly. relative basically means that you aren't 
>>> blest with perfect pitch. that's the best i can explain it.
>>> hope it helps.
>>> Timothy
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>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Kelsey Nicolay wrote:
>>>
>>>> What's the difference between perfect and relative pitch?
>>>>
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