[Menvi-discuss] SATB Writing?

Sat Mar 10 08:14:49 EST 2012

Yes, Stephanie, I agree with everything you are saying. And to all, even
though I told perhaps too frankly of my experience with the Tonal Harmony
book, I am indeed grateful that people would put in the time and effort to
make materials available to us that are off the normal paths of interest to
a lot of society. I would not have been able to learn and pass on to others
without such helps.

Dale

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] On Behalf Of STEPHANIE PIECK
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] SATB Writing?

Yeah, wholeheartedly agree--I remember a math textbook that was divided 
among somebody who had English as a third and very poor language, and 
somebody who sounded like they had just woken up. But even so, I challenge 
anybody to read an entire textbook of 500-plus pages, in a subject that 
isn't necessarily that interesting to the general population, describe all 
the pictures/graphs, play all the examples if it's music, and do it all as a

volunteer! With that in mind, I'll gladly put up with the less-than-ideal 
presentation. Besides, when we work with live readers, we have to admit that

not everyone is going to be really good at it.

As for whether the theory book readers are skilled pianists: Not that I can 
recall, but they're adequate.

Stephanie

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From: "Chela Robles" <cdrobles693 at gmail.com>
To: "This is for discussing music and braille literacy" 
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] SATB Writing?

>I wonder if they use skilled piano players to play the examples or if
> it is the narrators that do. Oh my! Don't get me started, I remember
> having to listen to a Spanish textbook that was recorded in Texas you
> had that twang going on and it really didn't help much with people
> clearing their throats, like they didn't know how to use the recorder,
> or even how close or further away from the mic they should be, ick!
> Have fun listening to that. Hope it sounds decent enough, at least it
> is not like learning Spanish.
>
> On 3/9/12, Dale Lieser <dale.lieser at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Having the braille also couldn't hurt. Regarding reading books with human
>> voices, it does take some getting used to, and I regret to have to tell 
>> you
>> that the readers of the Tonal Harmony book lack finesse. But with the
>> downloadable books you have easy control of the speed, without affecting
>> pitch.
>>
>> I suggest reading even the early chapters of the book. You will be able 
>> to
>> breeze through them quickly, but that way you can be sure to gain what 
>> might
>> not have even been taught.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org
>> [mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:04 PM
>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] SATB Writing?
>>
>> Hello,
>> I see RFB and D has really come a long way from those big clunky players!

>> I
>> love it!
>> I both found the textbook my teacher is using currently as well as the 
>> one
>> you recommended! This is really cool! I will listen to these and see how 
>> I
>> like them.
>> I really am not a fan of listening to human voices reading books, but I
>> guess I will have to start getting used to it. There are so many theory
>> books I want to read!
>> Thank you!!! So would you recommend me read along with the Braille book 
>> if I
>>
>> can from NLS as well?
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dale Lieser
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 3:23 PM
>> To: 'This is for discussing music and braille literacy'
>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] SATB Writing?
>>
>> The Tonal Harmony book from Learning Ally is read by several readers in
>> turn, and they play the examples on a piano.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org
>> [mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 6:12 PM
>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] SATB Writing?
>>
>> Hello,
>> No, my book stinks, so I just Google everything. How does an audio book 
>> work
>>
>> when it is theory? Do they read the examples? Because I'm never going to 
>> be
>> able to get through a Braille theory book, but I could probably get 
>> through
>> a theory book I'm reading with a Braille display or that is in audio.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Smart
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:08 PM
>> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
>> Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] SATB Writing?
>>
>> well, listening carefully to playback is about my best advice. If
>> you are willing to try Sibelius 5.25 and the Sibelius Access
>> scripts, there are probably plug-ins available for Sibelius that
>> can scan your score for problems such as parallel fifths.
>>
>> Hopefully you're working from a good textbook, such as Costka and
>> Payne's Tonal Harmony. I believe Learning Alley have that one in
>> audio form.
>>
>> Chris
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