[Menvi-discuss] Wands for blind people

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That's what my mom always used to say and all my music teachers, too. If the
music's right in front of the player, there should be no difference.
-Andy
P.S. I could never practice with my mom in the house. She'd always yell from
the other room, "that's wrong. go back. watch your fingering. slow it down,
it's too sloppy. stop parking on the pedal. f-sharp! f-sharp!, etc... She
could even tell from the other room if I'd let my wrists drop! Drove me
crazy, when all I wanted to do instead of practice was just noodle. <blush>
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  From: menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org
[mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org]On Behalf Of STEPHANIE PIECK
  Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:01 PM
  To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
  Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Wands for blind people


  Andy,

  Yes, making "general" statements like I did is always dangerous ... I've
definitely worked with a lot of very open-minded sighted musicians, too.

  I think that, if we want to be taken seriously and have a chance to
compete "just like everybody else," even beyond getting the skills we
need--like music literacy, instrumental or vocal proficiency--
  we also need to make it harder for people to use the excuse of having to
do extra work to "fit us in".

  I currently teach both blind and sighted piano students. Some of the blind
ones, when they first began lessons, would say to me, "Can't you just tell
me what the notes are?"

  To which I said: "You've got the music right in front of you. Read it."

  Some of the students were kind of surprised to be treated like their
sighted peers--and once they figured out I wasn't going to change my mind,
they also discovered that they COULD do it just like their sighted peers.

  Stephanie Pieck


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Data
    To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
    Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:18 PM
    Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] Wands for blind people


    Thank you, Stephanie.

    This is definitely an area I have strived to educate sighted people
about.
        Naturally, the ways in which we interpret the printed music and the
performing environments are different, but I believe that those differences
disappear in the unity of a musical ensemble. Time after time, I hear
stories of sighted music teachers telling blind students what instrument
they can and cannot play; how they should or should not pursue a certain
field of expertise. Frankly, it conveys ignorance, insecurity, and perhaps a
little laziness. (I mean, come on? Ask me a question and I'll Google it for
you.)
        I do not have enough fingers or toes to count the number of blind
colleagues I've worked with that are not having any problems functioning at
and above the level of sighted musicians, in all aspects of musicianship,
scholarship, and artistry. (And, by the way, that's *every* one I've worked
with!)

    Sincerely,
    Andy English.

      -----Original Message-----
      From: menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org
[mailto:menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org]On Behalf Of STEPHANIE PIECK
      Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:40 AM
      To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
      Subject: [Menvi-discuss] Wands for blind people


      Hi,

      I think the FM system idea might work. Honestly, if we are trying to
have the sighted musical community take us seriously as "professional
musicians", the last thing we need is to say, "Oh, you're gonna need this
special conducting baton".

      In my non-musical past, I exhibited dairy goats at competitions at the
national level. One of the areas I competed in was showmanship--i.e., how
well can you maneuver your animal around the ring, move around with other
exhibitors, handle other people's animals, etc. The first thing you learn in
these classes is that you have to always keep your goat between you and the
judge--they want to see and evaluate the goat, not you, or your backside as
your bending over, or your whatever!

      Anyway, we used an FM system like Maureen described for this. This
way, I didn't have to have somebody else walking around with me in person
telling me when to change sides.

      I think that, unfortunately, despite all the progress that has been
made in the area of inclusion and accommodations, we are still dealing with
people who, for the most part, have never even met a blind person and have
never read anything about blind people. So we're still dealing with the old
stereotypes.

      Another unfortunate situation is that music is becoming a profession
that's kind of frowned upon because it was one of the "old ways" blind
people earned a living. Now, it's much more fashionable to go into the STEM
subjects. But not everybody is passionate about numbers, chemicals,
engineering, or computers.

      I wish there was some way to form some sort of performing
collective--that's not a great word, but I can't come up with a better one
right now. If people were given an opportunity to see and hear, over and
over and over, in lots of different places, that blind musicians are just as
capable as sighted ones, then maybe the attitudes within the overall
community would begin to change, too.

      Any solution to this problem is going to be something big--either in
scope or in the undertaking. Big problems need big solutions, after all.

      I've really enjoyed the discussions on performing and sight-reading--I
have yet to perform with an orchestra as a piano soloist. The one time I
did, I organized a group and we did a Mozart concerto--with no conductor!
Everybody in the group was sighted except me.

      Stephanie Pieck



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