[Menvi-discuss] conducting

[Gillespie, Jeffrey]

Julie:

I had another thought, too.  Often it takes a "trial and error" approach.  The teacher should be willing to meet with you outside of class, with the aide, and try a few things... to see what you can do, and how you can do it.  Then he or she can tailor the tasks to fit you. The "tailoring" will be different for each student.  IF the teacher isn't sure how to teach you, then he or she should meet with you and try some things... to get to know you better.  THEN, if he or she is a good teacher, ideas will come.

Jeff Gillespie
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From: menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org [menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] on behalf of Nicole Ming Hui Pua [nicole.mhpua at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:29 AM
To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
Subject: Re: [Menvi-discuss] conducting

Hi Jeff,

I like your attitude, if only every lecturer, tutor and everyone
thinks like you!

As a blind person, I would attend the class if I were Julie - at least
there are people to ask, and get help.

And oftentimes, many assume that he/she can't do this or that if
he/she were to be blind - but they are not, so they do not know.

Go for it Julie! Maybe discuss thoroughly about the course with your
lecturer and explore the possible "obstacle".

Nicole.


On 08/09/2011, Gillespie, Jeffrey <jgillesp at butler.edu> wrote:
> Hi Julie:
>
> I am a sighted college professor who teaches music theory.  I have a few
> thoughts to share.  There's no excuse for a professor not being sure how to
> teach ANY student, even a conducting student who is blind.  The instructor
> should be up for the challenge and eager to be creative.  If he or she isn't
> doing that, then speak to the department chair.  The degree requirements may
> need to be modified a bit, or the conducting course requirements modified.
> For example, perhaps you could be graded in the course on a pass\fail basis.
>  There has to be some way to grade your work in that class, in order to
> uphold high standards for you, so you can set goals.  I don't know what the
> syllabus for the course looks like, or how grading is done in the course,
> but that's a question YOU will need to ask the instructor.
>
> An independent study option may be the best route, if the instructor doesn't
> know what to do with you in class.  However, an independent study
> technically means just that.... working independently, on your own, with
> occasional checking in with the instructor.  You can't really do an
> independent study in conducting.  In my opinion, your best bet would be to
> stay in the class, have an aide to help you with arm movements, and then
> meet with the instructor one-on-one once a week for additional instruction.
> I assume you will be doing lots of in-class listening, and that will be
> useful to you.  If you aren't doing lots of in-class listening, then the
> instructor is not designing the class in a way that's inclusive for you.
>
> It's not your fault if the instructor doesn't know how to teach you - it's
> the instructor's responsibility to teach.  Period!
>
> Jeff Gillespie
> Butler University
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> From: menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org [menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] on
> behalf of Julie McGinnity [kaybaycar at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:41 AM
> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
> Subject: [Menvi-discuss] conducting
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> As part of my degree in vocal performance, I have to take at least one
> semester of conducting.  The professor is not sure how to teach me,
> and I'm not sure how I am going to learn.  I was thinking that being
> in the class would not be benificial to me because I will not be able
> to see the patterns and things that are shown to the class visually.
> I imagine that I would be behind.  My school is thinking of offering
> me some kind of independent study option.  Is this a good solution?
>
> This is only the half of it though because the professor of the
> conducting classes honestly has no idea how to teach me.  I would
> really like to learn.  I think conducting would improve my rhythm, and
> depending on what I choose to study in grad school, it might be
> useful.  I know there are blind people who have taking conducting;
> what have you done?  How have you learned?  Any suggestions would be
> great.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Julie McG
>  Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
> Eyes for the Blind
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
> life."
> John 3:16
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