[Menvi-discuss] conducting

Nicole Ming Hui Pua nicole.mhpua at gmail.com
Thu Sep 8 10:29:39 EDT 2011


Hi Jeff,

I like your attitude, if only every lecturer, tutor and everyone
thinks like you!

As a blind person, I would attend the class if I were Julie - at least
there are people to ask, and get help.

And oftentimes, many assume that he/she can't do this or that if
he/she were to be blind - but they are not, so they do not know.

Go for it Julie! Maybe discuss thoroughly about the course with your
lecturer and explore the possible "obstacle".

Nicole.


On 08/09/2011, Gillespie, Jeffrey <jgillesp at butler.edu> wrote:
> Hi Julie:
>
> I am a sighted college professor who teaches music theory.  I have a few
> thoughts to share.  There's no excuse for a professor not being sure how to
> teach ANY student, even a conducting student who is blind.  The instructor
> should be up for the challenge and eager to be creative.  If he or she isn't
> doing that, then speak to the department chair.  The degree requirements may
> need to be modified a bit, or the conducting course requirements modified.
> For example, perhaps you could be graded in the course on a pass\fail basis.
>  There has to be some way to grade your work in that class, in order to
> uphold high standards for you, so you can set goals.  I don't know what the
> syllabus for the course looks like, or how grading is done in the course,
> but that's a question YOU will need to ask the instructor.
>
> An independent study option may be the best route, if the instructor doesn't
> know what to do with you in class.  However, an independent study
> technically means just that.... working independently, on your own, with
> occasional checking in with the instructor.  You can't really do an
> independent study in conducting.  In my opinion, your best bet would be to
> stay in the class, have an aide to help you with arm movements, and then
> meet with the instructor one-on-one once a week for additional instruction.
> I assume you will be doing lots of in-class listening, and that will be
> useful to you.  If you aren't doing lots of in-class listening, then the
> instructor is not designing the class in a way that's inclusive for you.
>
> It's not your fault if the instructor doesn't know how to teach you - it's
> the instructor's responsibility to teach.  Period!
>
> Jeff Gillespie
> Butler University
> ________________________________________
> From: menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org [menvi-discuss-bounces at menvi.org] on
> behalf of Julie McGinnity [kaybaycar at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 12:41 AM
> To: This is for discussing music and braille literacy
> Subject: [Menvi-discuss] conducting
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> As part of my degree in vocal performance, I have to take at least one
> semester of conducting.  The professor is not sure how to teach me,
> and I'm not sure how I am going to learn.  I was thinking that being
> in the class would not be benificial to me because I will not be able
> to see the patterns and things that are shown to the class visually.
> I imagine that I would be behind.  My school is thinking of offering
> me some kind of independent study option.  Is this a good solution?
>
> This is only the half of it though because the professor of the
> conducting classes honestly has no idea how to teach me.  I would
> really like to learn.  I think conducting would improve my rhythm, and
> depending on what I choose to study in grad school, it might be
> useful.  I know there are blind people who have taking conducting;
> what have you done?  How have you learned?  Any suggestions would be
> great.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Julie McG
>  Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
> Eyes for the Blind
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
> life."
> John 3:16
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